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« Reply #30 on: January 06, 2013, 07:17:46 PM »

Blatter criticises KPB for walking off and says clubs face sanctions for this sort of behaviour.

 

Blatter is right, isn't he? Do you want players walking off whenever they don't like something? How is that going to work - games ending with 9 against 7?
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« Reply #31 on: January 06, 2013, 07:43:35 PM »

Blatter criticises KPB for walking off and says clubs face sanctions for this sort of behaviour.

 

Blatter is right, isn't he? Do you want players walking off whenever they don't like something? How is that going to work - games ending with 9 against 7?

Yeah, we wouldn't want racism to get in the way of a bit of football would we?
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« Reply #32 on: January 06, 2013, 07:55:39 PM »

Would be nice to be able to chuck sections of the crowd out of the stadium Smiley
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« Reply #33 on: January 06, 2013, 07:56:14 PM »

yeah gets in the way that racism

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« Reply #34 on: January 06, 2013, 08:00:51 PM »

Blatter criticises KPB for walking off and says clubs face sanctions for this sort of behaviour.

 

Honestly? How is he still around?
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« Reply #35 on: January 06, 2013, 08:23:13 PM »

Blatter criticises KPB for walking off and says clubs face sanctions for this sort of behaviour.

 

Honestly? How is he still around?

Don't know why I'm surprised tbh. He brought in a regulation that said you get booked for taking your shirt off because it upsets the sponsors who've paid a fortune to have their logo on the shirt when the camera is on the goalscorer.
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« Reply #36 on: January 06, 2013, 08:33:34 PM »

Blatter criticises KPB for walking off and says clubs face sanctions for this sort of behaviour.

 

Blatter is right, isn't he? Do you want players walking off whenever they don't like something? How is that going to work - games ending with 9 against 7?

Yeah, we wouldn't want racism to get in the way of a bit of football would we?

So you are happy for players to walk off whenever they decide? Is that just for racism or does that include when the crowd abuses their appearance, their sexuality, their social life, their family? How do we decide that something wasn't serious enough for a player to leave, or is it just up to them?
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« Reply #37 on: January 06, 2013, 08:42:58 PM »

Blatter criticises KPB for walking off and says clubs face sanctions for this sort of behaviour.

 

Blatter is right, isn't he? Do you want players walking off whenever they don't like something? How is that going to work - games ending with 9 against 7?

Yeah, we wouldn't want racism to get in the way of a bit of football would we?

So you are happy for players to walk off whenever they decide? Is that just for racism or does that include when the crowd abuses their appearance, their sexuality, their social life, their family? How do we decide that something wasn't serious enough for a player to leave, or is it just up to them?

No, the authorities should do something about it. 

No one should have to face racism at their place of work.  But if someone was being racist to you where you worked, I'd be right behind you if you walked out and any fines or punishment I'd look to dish out would be towards the racists, not the victim.
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« Reply #38 on: January 06, 2013, 08:47:32 PM »

Here's an example that puts it into perspective.

Imagine there's a golfer, he's black.  At every tee-shot a group in the crowd start making monkey noises and chanting racist stuff.  Should he just continue to play on, or would you expect him to refuse to play until the idiots are dealt with?
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« Reply #39 on: January 06, 2013, 09:27:06 PM »

You didn't answer my question. Allowing this will allow players to walk off for lots of reasons; those above and some others I haven't thought of. Do you think that is okay?

Where would it end? Would you want to pay in, not knowing whether half the players are going to hop it part-way through and the match end up being abandoned? And how useful could that be to a team that is losing?

The problem with allowing it is that there are no controls. How do you determine whether the abuse was so bad that it was intolerable or whether it was quite minor and the player is just trying it on? If it is intolerable, the correct action for a player is to complain to the referee and/or his manager and put the matter in their hands, leaving it to them to take appropriate decisions.
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« Reply #40 on: January 06, 2013, 09:36:01 PM »

You didn't answer my question. Allowing this will allow players to walk off for lots of reasons; those above and some others I haven't thought of. Do you think that is okay?

Where would it end? Would you want to pay in, not knowing whether half the players are going to hop it part-way through and the match end up being abandoned? And how useful could that be to a team that is losing?

The problem with allowing it is that there are no controls. How do you determine whether the abuse was so bad that it was intolerable or whether it was quite minor and the player is just trying it on? If it is intolerable, the correct action for a player is to complain to the referee and/or his manager and put the matter in their hands, leaving it to them to take appropriate decisions.

I did answer it. 

A player shouldn't walk off.  But they shouldn't have to walk off.  No other sport would tolerate this behaviour from idiots in the crowd.  It would be punished and dealt with so that players don't have to suffer racist abuse (which is illegal in most countries as far as I know).
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« Reply #41 on: January 06, 2013, 10:09:27 PM »

Blatter. Complete and utter retard! When he gets out of football it will be a great day
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« Reply #42 on: January 06, 2013, 10:13:01 PM »

What if a black doctor gets racist abuse from a couple of drunk morons at work. Should he walk out of the hospital and go home?
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« Reply #43 on: January 06, 2013, 10:17:21 PM »

What if a black doctor gets racist abuse from a couple of drunk morons at work. Should he walk out of the hospital and go home?

No, he should stand there and keep treating them. You are right.

I presume you are trying to say there are other actions here? Like what? The Doctor would remove himself from the situation and call the police... KPB did exactly that.
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« Reply #44 on: January 06, 2013, 10:19:49 PM »

What if a black doctor gets racist abuse from a couple of drunk morons at work. Should he walk out of the hospital and go home?

No, he should stand there and keep treating them. You are right.
i'm sure most foreign doctors in a & e will get racist abuse frequently. Must be a horrible night shift at weekends.
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