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« on: January 05, 2013, 03:17:45 PM »

Playing in a big DC game last night. I wasnt in this pot but thought it was an interesting hand

game is full we are going to play it as the hero in the cutoff

utg limps and then a raise to 10 a few callers and we call the 10 with

  three clubs

button folds and we are 5 way to the flop, pot is 54

we see a 

limper checks pfr bets 50 station calls 50 and its on us.

limper is playing 500, pfr we are gonna call crazy agg and is playing 2k, station playing 650 we have them covered.
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« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2013, 03:35:49 PM »

OK, i'm going to kick it off by saying call

Seems the most "standard" play in this situation?
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« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2013, 04:22:37 PM »

No reason to do anything other than call.

Change the to the and there is a reasonable argument for folding. Having a backdoor NFD is really good in these sort of spots.
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« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2013, 05:17:14 PM »

Change the to the and there is a reasonable argument for folding. Having a backdoor NFD is really good in these sort of spots.

Surely you still call though? this spot is just way better.

Folding seems really really weak and raising a bit suicidal 0 call seems like really the only play
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« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2013, 05:39:25 PM »

Yeah, I still call... but there is an argument for folding, that's all. It is close.
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« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2013, 05:57:47 PM »

Yep the call is standard, i just thought id take the action from the flop on.

So we call the 50 and after a huge dwell limper flats the 50 as well.

Turn card is  Two Diamonds.

So board is now  Two Diamonds

and we have    three clubs

Limper checks, super agg bets 200 station flats and its on us.
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« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2013, 07:25:06 PM »

Same same - call again. Pretty simple so far...
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« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2013, 07:58:25 PM »

Call, river the and ship all the dimez?
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« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2013, 11:09:35 PM »

any concerns on the turn?
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« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2013, 11:13:03 PM »

We have nut low draw which is good
Now any card that's not a spade and not on the board gives us a good hand
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« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2013, 11:20:26 PM »

any concerns on the turn?

Well I am glad we exercised pot control this far, because I am getting uneasy now. There are a whole bunch of rivers which I ain't gonna like much.
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« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2013, 11:26:03 PM »

any concerns on the turn?

Well I am glad we exercised pot control this far, because I am getting uneasy now. There are a whole bunch of rivers which I ain't gonna like much.

How much are we hating the  for example?!
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« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2013, 12:07:10 PM »

I think we're forced to call the turn bet but I'm starting to fear the worst.

A non-spade 9 would be nice to see on the river..
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« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2013, 01:26:56 PM »

I am not a big fan of the hand at all remembering this is 5 card, I don't see one clean out in which we scoop and only 7 cards where we are gtd our money back the rest of the outs are not clean and we could end up making our hand and claiming 1/6 of pot
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« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2013, 02:52:06 PM »

I am not a big fan of the hand at all remembering this is 5 card, I don't see one clean out in which we scoop and only 7 cards where we are gtd our money back the rest of the outs are not clean and we could end up making our hand and claiming 1/6 of pot

I'm not a fist-pump huge fan of this spot either, but you have miscounted the clean outs...
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