Calling this off?

[EvilPie]

DTD MPP tournament at the weekend. I'm in P3 so playing for all 3 prize pools.

Bubble has burst in P1 and 2 so I've locked up about £200 and steadily laddering those.

We're now on the bubble of P3 and I'm in the BB.

Guy to my left is a decent player but is determined to cash. He checks his cards and sort of sighs because he knows he should shove but doesn't want to bubble and lose £200.

As he's dwelling there's an all in on the other table and the bubble bursts. He now decides that as he's cashed his hand's good enough and shoves.

Folds to me and I've got 77 and pretty much snap.

I had 107k at the time with blinds at 6k/12k + 2k about to go 8k/16k + 3k. Other guy had about 90k.

Pretty sure I got it right especially as I've got 1 of my 9bbs already in the middle and the structure's massively crap shooty at this stage.

[the sicilian]

insta !

[outragous76]

Yeah gotta go with a pair with less than 10bb

[Doobs]

This fella sounds nitty and nits don't like shoving small pairs UTG or UTG+1.  And surely he wasn't considering doing do on the bubble?

Surely this can't be insta, probably 50% at best vs this range and that is before ICM considerations.

Think it is definitely close.

[outragous76]

This fella sounds nitty and nits don't like shoving small pairs UTG or UTG+1.  And surely he wasn't considering doing do on the bubble?

Surely this can't be insta, probably 50% at best vs this range and that is before ICM considerations.

Think it is definitely close.

I kinda thought this but we are on fumes

One reason to hold off is if you thought you could abuse this guys blind senseless, but then you are relying on it folding round, which isnt going to happen much in 2013

[smashedagain]

You have to think with his dwell that he does not have any pairs beating you as you imagine he is happily shoving those hands so most likely racing.

I did notice earlier on that at 800/1600 we only had 20 bigs (just over 32k average stack) so were you around average stack?
Like Doobs says you are already laddering the other 2 pots and the ICM would be interesting especially as I suspect there would have been a lot of players worse off than you, bb just about to go up and has gone through you.

Any idea what time it finished because I thought the clock/starting stack was a bit mean?

[EvilPie]

This fella sounds nitty and nits don't like shoving small pairs UTG or UTG+1.  And surely he wasn't considering doing do on the bubble?

Surely this can't be insta, probably 50% at best vs this range and that is before ICM considerations.

Think it is definitely close.

I kinda thought this but we are on fumes

One reason to hold off is if you thought you could abuse this guys blind senseless, but then you are relying on it folding round, which isnt going to happen much in 2013

I had decent FE in any pot that folded to me to be fair. Also the table was tight so there was a decent chance of something folding round.

I wouldn't describe him as nitty. There was a short stack on the other table and he wanted to hold on for the £200 was all. Now that he's cashed his range has changed hugely.

The thing that made it an insta for me was that he didn't shove before the bubble burst. Pretty much rules out AK, probably AQ and 1010+. He folds 66 and worse so I've got his range as being very narrow almost always a decent blackjack hand.

I'm confident I'm flipping so went with it.

If he turns his hand over and shows us A10o do we still call and take the race? Personally I would every time because I needed to win flips at some stage. Might as well do it when we're 90% sure we're getting one.

[EvilPie]

You have to think with his dwell that he does not have any pairs beating you as you imagine he is happily shoving those hands so most likely racing.

I did notice earlier on that at 800/1600 we only had 20 bigs (just over 32k average stack) so were you around average stack?
Like Doobs says you are already laddering the other 2 pots and the ICM would be interesting especially as I suspect there would have been a lot of players worse off than you, bb just about to go up and has gone through you.

Any idea what time it finished because I thought the clock/starting stack was a bit mean?

Average was around the 190k region. Players were dropping fast so wasn't keeping track. More bothered about my stack at that stage tbh. Whatever it was at 36k an orbit you don't need many to get through to be back to average.

20k starting at 50/100 for 30 mins? How generous do you want it? Played reasonably deep in the early levels then became a crapshoot. Loads of fun in my opinion.

[smashedagain]

You have to think with his dwell that he does not have any pairs beating you as you imagine he is happily shoving those hands so most likely racing.

I did notice earlier on that at 800/1600 we only had 20 bigs (just over 32k average stack) so were you around average stack?
Like Doobs says you are already laddering the other 2 pots and the ICM would be interesting especially as I suspect there would have been a lot of players worse off than you, bb just about to go up and has gone through you.

Any idea what time it finished because I thought the clock/starting stack was a bit mean?

Average was around the 190k region. Players were dropping fast so wasn't keeping track. More bothered about my stack at that stage tbh. Whatever it was at 36k an orbit you don't need many to get through to be back to average.

20k starting at 50/100 for 30 mins? How generous do you want it? Played reasonably deep in the early levels then became a crapshoot. Loads of fun in my opinion.

dont get me wrong i have just become more accustomed to playing poker at Dtd without it being crapshoot stuff, admit this is usually because I am out before it became a crapshoot. I agree that the smaller buy in players are a lot more fun and it was fun.

[George2Loose]

Where's he jammed from? I doubt he's just gone mental one hand after the bubbles burst. Sounds real close. Wouldn't be insta doing anything.

[outragous76]

Where's he jammed from? I doubt he's just gone mental one hand after the bubbles burst. Sounds real close. Wouldn't be insta doing anything.

wel if matt is bb I assume UTG?

[kinboshi]

Where's he jammed from? I doubt he's just gone mental one hand after the bubbles burst. Sounds real close. Wouldn't be insta doing anything.

He's not going mental, but will be shoving fairly wide here with his stack size won't he?  Matt's just saying that the player obviously didn't want to bubble on the hand, and now the bubble's gone, he doesn't have that consideration any more.

He's got to be shoving pairs and any pretty much most broadway hands here?

[MC]

Vs his stack/presumed range folding would be bad. Even more so if our read that he has a marginal-ish hand is correct.

[EvilPie]

Where's he jammed from? I doubt he's just gone mental one hand after the bubbles burst. Sounds real close. Wouldn't be insta doing anything.

UTG.

He's definitely got something decent because we've been talking about folding to the money and he was saying he wanted a monster or nothing.

There was no messing about or anything, I know that he'd have shoved a monster quickly and folded anything marginal pretty quick.

I've got him on KQ, A10, AJ and if I'm unlucky 88 or 99. Might sound narrow but given the situation I was confident.

It was insta but I had my calling range sorted long before it got to me. Pretty much 66+ AJ+

Obviously much easier for me because I had a much better feel for him based on how we'd been chatting for the previous 15 mins.

[EvilPie]

Where's he jammed from? I doubt he's just gone mental one hand after the bubbles burst. Sounds real close. Wouldn't be insta doing anything.

He's not going mental, but will be shoving fairly wide here with his stack size won't he?  Matt's just saying that the player obviously didn't want to bubble on the hand, and now the bubble's gone, he doesn't have that consideration any more.

He's got to be shoving pairs and any pretty much most broadway hands here?

He'd be shoving wider if the bubble had burst before he looked at his cards. Because of the situation there's loads I can rule out.

There's no way he'd think that long and look at the other tables to see what was happening with KJ