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« on: February 02, 2013, 11:45:38 AM »

Villain 1 220k, loose ish image, has peeled EVERY open raise Of mine

Villain 2, 115k, was previously active, but since I have returned to the table I haven't seen him Play a hand circa 2-3 orbits

Hero 145k, seen as active opening pots, willing to 3 bet, and when previously at table had been v aggro

Blinds 1200/2400 300


Raise utg from V1, to 7k, v2, 3 bets to 21k from MP

Hero has JJ

The only thing I know for certain is that if we call, v1 will call every time, ( but probs jam top of his range)

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« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2013, 11:56:18 AM »

Has v1 shown a tendency to raise/call a lot? ie if you fold, is v1 calling? Moreover, does v2 know this?

As is often the case with JJ, I think all three options are fine. I think if v2 is decent it might be a fold here, 'cause even though his sizing is horrible, he might just be trying to maximise versus v1. If not then personally i'm 44k/folding versus v1/calling versus v2
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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2013, 12:47:02 PM »

V1 will call either/both of us



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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2013, 01:08:35 PM »

V2 ever gonna be light against v1. U can look at it both ways. Ie will he iso him wide ip? Think I like a pile here
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« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2013, 01:14:18 PM »

Aren't you supposed to shove here with the battle-cry "I hate jacks" at the ready?
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« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2013, 01:38:00 PM »

Think I like folding here but I'm a dirty nit at the moment.

With 30 bigs it's going in but with 60 I'm going to take advantage of my new found patience and find a fold.

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« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2013, 01:54:31 PM »

If it's the villains I think you're referring to having been on the table I would be jamming.
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« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2013, 03:15:28 PM »

Glad to see people are split anyway

I think naming villains could help maybe, and can't see any harm in doing so,

V1 James "Raggy" Clarke (mc this fella bust you)

V2 Peter haslam

Ok, well my assessment was that vs 2 villains I wasn't getting called my worse. I was happy with my stack on the table, so although there was merit in a shove, I opted against ( I was really concerned about Peters hand from live reads)

However those deamons crept in, as I literally hadnt seen a hand all day, so in the knowledge James was coming for the ride, I called, James calls as expected.

Pot circa 65k

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Check, check, on me?? ??
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« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2013, 03:20:39 PM »

Lol now that i know villains i either 44k/call vs either or just pile now
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« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2013, 03:40:26 PM »

Lol now that i know villains i either 44k/call vs either or just pile now

This. I'm playing tight at the moment but I'm not playing stupid.
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« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2013, 04:57:28 PM »

Glad to see people are split anyway

I think naming villains could help maybe, and can't see any harm in doing so,

V1 James "Raggy" Clarke (mc this fella bust you)

V2 Peter haslam

Ok, well my assessment was that vs 2 villains I wasn't getting called my worse. I was happy with my stack on the table, so although there was merit in a shove, I opted against ( I was really concerned about Peters hand from live reads)

However those deamons crept in, as I literally hadnt seen a hand all day, so in the knowledge James was coming for the ride, I called, James calls as expected.

Pot circa 65k

ts two hearts

Check, check, on me?? ??

Feel dependant. Don't mind bet/folding around 1/3 pot or just checking back if I think I'm getting c/raised
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« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2013, 06:57:13 PM »

If we are readless then we should fold, generally people don't 3 bet light, our hand doesn't play well vs a 5b jam and it's not a good hand to 4b bluff. So I'd say it's a clear fold.
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« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2013, 07:02:25 PM »

If we are readless then we should fold, generally people don't 3 bet light, our hand doesn't play well vs a 5b jam and it's not a good hand to 4b bluff. So I'd say it's a clear fold.

Probably one of the least "readless" pha posts in the last few years
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« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2013, 07:22:28 PM »

Villain 2 is the only person we should initially worry about.

'previously active, hasn't played a hand for couple
Orbits' should be accounted as readless.

Btw this is definitely not a rub I'm just genuinely curious. What did you have hen you called a big 3bet and then donked/folded
Kk4? Promise not beig cheeky Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2013, 07:30:14 PM »

Villain 2 is the only person we should initially worry about.

'previously active, hasn't played a hand for couple
Orbits' should be accounted as readless.

Btw this is definitely not a rub I'm just genuinely curious. What did you have hen you called a big 3bet and then donked/folded
Kk4? Promise not beig cheeky Smiley

I know it looks horrific, I am fully aware of that, but I have my reasons which I'm not prepared to say on a public forum,

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