$5.40 KO 10K GTD 2.8K FTW

[chelseaboy]

We are 10/101 at this point having just doubled up with AK>AQ

PokerStars Hand #93460898561: Tournament #679197131, $4.00+$1.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXIII (5000/10000) - 2013/02/03 17:19:40 ET
Table '679197131 160' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 2: NAMR0N (74354 in chips)
Seat 3: OldDaddy1962 (147861 in chips)
Seat 4: Zetos777 (162624 in chips)
Seat 5: CFC2012 (242278 in chips)
Seat 6: arek89 (192576 in chips)
Seat 7: AtomTom87 (114833 in chips)
Seat 8: Versace777 (94427 in chips)
Seat 9: madravida (102616 in chips)
NAMR0N: posts the ante 1000
OldDaddy1962: posts the ante 1000
Zetos777: posts the ante 1000
CFC2012: posts the ante 1000
arek89: posts the ante 1000
AtomTom87: posts the ante 1000
Versace777: posts the ante 1000
madravida: posts the ante 1000
NAMR0N: posts small blind 5000
OldDaddy1962: posts big blind 10000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to CFC2012 [ ]
Zetos777: folds
CFC2012: raises 11000 to 21000
arek89: raises 170576 to 191576 and is all-in
AtomTom87: folds
Versace777: folds
madravida: folds
NAMR0N: folds
OldDaddy1962: folds
CFC2012:

The villain is 17/15/37/5.1 over 216 hands, he had been quite aggro!! How often is he going to have AA KK QQ? or worse?

[TL900]

lol, 50p.

[chelseaboy]

lol, 50p.

Can you find a fold here or would that be just as bad as not calling?

[pleno1]

Folding and not calling would be pretty similar.

[cambridgealex]

I'd call happily here. I think he'll have quite a lot of worse hands in his range.

[jackinbeat]

Play this a lot, it's a snap call.

[titaniumbean]

you've put up the wrong hh, we have kings.

[pleno1]

Thing is with these posts that really annoy me.

You already posted today that he had aq. To call you have to be beating his range (Actualky getting ok price and can call wider but for arguments sake..) so if you know he can potentially have aq then of course it's a call.

I've never understood why anybody posts these questions, if he had aa it would still e a ridiculous thread but is still comprehend it. It's also from somebody who plays sit and gos and has coaching where jamming/callin is the most
Important thing.

Really sorry if this comes across Bad , I just don't get it!

I'd suggest downloading equilab by pokerstrategy (free) and playing about with ranges and comparing equity's with different hands against different ranges. Again I'm sorry but if everybody continues to be polite with you it's going to result in millions more of these threads.

[chelseaboy]

Thing is with these posts that really annoy me.

You already posted today that he had aq. To call you have to be beating his range (Actualky getting ok price and can call wider but for arguments sake..) so if you know he can potentially have aq then of course it's a call.

I've never understood why anybody posts these questions, if he had aa it would still e a ridiculous thread but is still comprehend it. It's also from somebody who plays sit and gos and has coaching where jamming/callin is the most
Important thing.

Really sorry if this comes across Bad , I just don't get it!

I'd suggest downloading equilab by pokerstrategy (free) and playing about with ranges and comparing equity's with different hands against different ranges. Again I'm sorry but if everybody continues to be polite with you it's going to result in millions more of these threads.

IVE BEEN SAT DOWN!!!

 No probs, I posted the Hand in my thread but not everyone reads my thread... nice to know that you do though! I dont think its a silly question cause its a ridic over bet where he could have anything! I was also curious as to whether its a sensible call when we have 24bbs do we really want to be spinning for our tourney life when we are in a decent pos with 100 players left.

But I also see your point so point has been taken and I wont post hands like this again!

[jackinbeat]

Thing is with these posts that really annoy me.

You already posted today that he had aq. To call you have to be beating his range (Actualky getting ok price and can call wider but for arguments sake..) so if you know he can potentially have aq then of course it's a call.

I've never understood why anybody posts these questions, if he had aa it would still e a ridiculous thread but is still comprehend it. It's also from somebody who plays sit and gos and has coaching where jamming/callin is the most
Important thing.

Really sorry if this comes across Bad , I just don't get it!

I'd suggest downloading equilab by pokerstrategy (free) and playing about with ranges and comparing equity's with different hands against different ranges. Again I'm sorry but if everybody continues to be polite with you it's going to result in millions more of these threads.

Great tool and still a great site, well said. Although I can understand the pain, just prob best posting something that isn't a bad beat. Only just realised you're the same Pleno as Pokerstrategy, doh.

[titaniumbean]

the question you should be asking here is not do I call with KK it's what do I call with? then develop a range for this spot.

[mondatoo]

More interesting than the hh, how are you getting coaching for SNGs and haven't came across this sort of spot with your coach ?

His 3b jam is a very standard jam with his stack and not wanting to be harsh but yes your question is a silly one.

[titaniumbean]

More interesting than the hh, how are you getting coaching for SNGs and haven't came accross this sort of spot with your coach ?

His 3b jam is a very standard jam with his stack and not wanting to be harsh but yes your question is a silly one.

I read the hh and was like lol wat. then I went back and checked the stacks 3 times, and the action and again and then i'm still like lol wat.


chelsea boy, what hands do you call with here? if you answer that and see peoples responses you will learn so much more than coming away that yes calling KK here was right.

[chelseaboy]

I posted this in a bit of a mood after getting muffed yesterday, so apologise for time wasting etc.

Monda, to answer your question I have come across this on numerous times in a stg but its only a stg and havent been sat there for a few hours so its a snap call in a stg format. This is why I asked the question as to if you would play it differently in a mtt format with a lot more at risk.

Titanium I would probably of passed JJ 1010 AJ AQ and AK here... I just think its a strange bet, he has 20bbs and thought with a hand like his he would flat and not jam with such a marginal hand with 5 more to act after him.

Either way, your all right and its more of a bad beat post than a discussion post!

[pleno1]

My signal is really flawed but your logic is really really far off. Of you sn your coah this thread he should e able to massively improve or game as its basic fundamentals on sng/MTT poker.