He who fights and runs away: Nightly 162 15 left, JJ ep 3bet

[rfgqqabc]

http://weaktight.com/5476822

Not seen much from him at all. Very little in the way of 3betting anyway. Had peeled KTo from sb to a cutoff raise playing like 18bb so presumably not fantastic. I'm really not sure about best line here, hopefully forum is somewhat split although I considered both jamming and folding.

Prob views me as somewhat loose/spewy. Basically heatered from 20k to 100k to 60k to 90k, showing down good hands but a lot of c/jamming turns with middle set and I did show one bluff down.

[MC]

Blergh

(hope that helps )

[SubZERO]

Considering reads and 4x of an utg raise id lean towards a fold here. Not a nice spot but I doubt you're ahead often

[pleno1]

It's a fold and not really that close.

[buffyslayer1]

It's a fold and not really that close.

^^^yeah I agree

Even if you were slightly ahead of his range (which your not), you have a bunch of chips that you can use effectively to chip up without showdown (which is what winning mtts is all about).

So the old cliche wait for a better spot comes to mind, because I am sure that raise/folding as a steal into some nitty players will how you more profit without risk than anything you do here.

[rfgqqabc]

It's a fold and not really that close.

^^^yeah I agree

Even if you were slightly ahead of his range (which your not), you have a bunch of chips that you can use effectively to chip up without showdown (which is what winning mtts is all about).

So the old cliche wait for a better spot comes to mind, because I am sure that raise/folding as a steal into some nitty players will how you more profit without risk than anything you do here.

My thoughts went Fold and don't tell anyone to Jam it in his eye and win the flip.

It really does seem like an easy fold now, the problem I have is if we have QQ here? If JJ is the top of our folding range i won't cry too much.

[Rupert]

It's a fold and not really that close.

[rfgqqabc]

It's a fold and not really that close.

Cheers Rupert, I might look like I'm being really sarcastic but I'm not.

[Rupert]

Sorry was responding to OP not you. QQ I think is actually a fair bit tougher. As a rule I more or less never fold QQ sooooo

[SuuPRlim]

thing about QQ is he caannnnn have JJ, problem with JJ is he rarely has TT

[Rupert]

thing about QQ is he caannnnn have JJ, problem with JJ is he rarely has TT

Well that and also he's way more likely to have AK.

   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    36.190%     35.98%    00.21%         125683776       731868.00   { JJ }
Hand 1:    63.810%     63.60%    00.21%         222162504       731868.00   { QQ+, AKs, AKo }

   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    40.207%     38.35%    01.86%         114253440      5540034.00   { QQ }
Hand 1:    59.793%     57.93%    01.86%         172607388      5540034.00   { QQ+, AKs, AKo }

[pleno1]

i mean generally those calcs will be a little bit off as we should probably discount some combos of AA and keep all the AK combos, and of course add JJ combos. But yeah, I agree QQ is v close, whilst KK is a get in.

[JustinSayne]

I would say this sizing is way more likely to be AK than it is KK+

Still fold cause im a big girl though

[pleno1]

I would say this sizing is way more likely to be AK than it is KK+

yeah thats why id decrease the aa/kk combos and keep all of the ak combos.

[youthnkzR]

I would say this sizing is way more likely to be AK than it is KK+

yeah thats why id decrease the aa/kk combos and keep all of the ak combos.

This. Think it's closer with JJ then everyone on here seems to think. Probs a fold tho?