DTD Streamed Cash game TONIGHT

[George2Loose]

Agree tony. This is a cash game which happens to be streamed live. Poker is pretty boring y'know

[Marky147]

Ed really is very good, Rasta is great value and they definitely work well together.

Camel was comedy in the chat, as were the fake Steve Vladar, Carlo Citrone and Howard Plant

The game was pretty 'friendly' which was to be expected and I think the chat was similar to a colosseum in Rome, everyone just wanted blood quickly. Obviously Rob was expected in the game much earlier, once he did arrive things went mental for an hour or so, and then he dissappeared taking Rich Berridge with him.

I thought overall it was good for a first run which with some tweaking can only get better, Rob only turning up for an hour was obviously detrimental to the game but couldn't be helped. People said that the way the game played out wasn't dependent on Rob which I had said on the chat, I think that him turning up proved that it pretty much was though and it turned into a completely different game with his arrival.

The the amount of moaning about something provided for free was a little irritating, nobody was forced to watch and god forbid that the players aren't just rofling around with their own money. The majority of them are playing for a living, so they're not thinking about performing for the audience and are looking to nick a decent wage from a big game.

Live poker generally isn't too riveting, have you ever sat and watched 'Live at the Bike' for any period of time? It's pretty dull on the most part, but the difference here is knowing some of the players and it's fun to sweat them.

It is what it is, I enjoyed watching it on one screen whilst pottering about on another for a few hours and will watch next time too.

[redsimon]

Will be good if its PLO next time, very rarely shown on tv so hopefully will be a good 'un.

[tikay]

Agree wholeheartedly with Lord Bedi, & Marky.

I never watched it, so I never saw the negative comments (except one or two on this thread), but it does not surprise me.

We (next door) were offered a weekly "Live at the Bike" Stream to put on our Channel, but watching regular live cash is not exactly riveting, or mainstream.

[tikay]

Will be good if its PLO next time, very rarely shown on tv so hopefully will be a good 'un.

Yes, personally, I think that will make good viewing, though only because I am an Omaha pervert. I don't know the exact numbers, but I doubt that 2% or 3% of poker players are Omaha regulars, it is not a popular game.

For the minority, though, yes, it will be worth a watch.

[jackinbeat]

Can you hear me, Mother?

lol, whover selects the players next time someone remind them live streams are supposed to be entertaining. Really, Rob tried his best to save a sinking ship, and without Kalmer it could have been suicude watch. Watching AQ folded pre to a squeeze from K3 was hillarious though, Alex you uber nit, really...??

My comment was simply because it had been suggested that the thread was locked, & I wanted to test it.

I don't wish to argue, but I don't think those players were there to entertain, they were playing for serious money (relatively), we should not expect them to ham it up for a non-paying audience, that would be the tail wagging the dog.

It was a 2/5 game, no? When I agree it may be a lot of money for some, I got to disagree it's entertainment (or should be), it's there to promote DTD surely, and maybe the players, those playing underrolled or folding everything are no good for the game or the viewers, paying or not.

[Woodsey]

Can you hear me, Mother?

lol, whover selects the players next time someone remind them live streams are supposed to be entertaining. Really, Rob tried his best to save a sinking ship, and without Kalmer it could have been suicude watch. Watching AQ folded pre to a squeeze from K3 was hillarious though, Alex you uber nit, really...??

My comment was simply because it had been suggested that the thread was locked, & I wanted to test it.

I don't wish to argue, but I don't think those players were there to entertain, they were playing for serious money (relatively), we should not expect them to ham it up for a non-paying audience, that would be the tail wagging the dog.

It was a 2/5 game, no? When I agree it may be a lot of money for some, I got to disagree it's entertainment (or should be), it's there to promote DTD surely, and maybe the players, those playing underrolled or folding everything are no good for the game or the viewers, paying or not.

You can't blame the players. Whilst I agree I want it to be more fun its down to DTD selecting players that they know will be fun to watch.

[tikay]

Can you hear me, Mother?

lol, whover selects the players next time someone remind them live streams are supposed to be entertaining. Really, Rob tried his best to save a sinking ship, and without Kalmer it could have been suicude watch. Watching AQ folded pre to a squeeze from K3 was hillarious though, Alex you uber nit, really...??

My comment was simply because it had been suggested that the thread was locked, & I wanted to test it.

I don't wish to argue, but I don't think those players were there to entertain, they were playing for serious money (relatively), we should not expect them to ham it up for a non-paying audience, that would be the tail wagging the dog.

It was a 2/5 game, no? When I agree it may be a lot of money for some, I got to disagree it's entertainment (or should be), it's there to promote DTD surely, and maybe the players, those playing underrolled or folding everything are no good for the game or the viewers, paying or not.

I'm afraid I cannot agree with that.

Players are entitled to play tight if they wish. It may be out of fashion, but it's perfectly fine if that is how someone plays.

Should we really expect a guy, who is normally selective with his starting hands, to plonk down several thousand quid, & be told "spray it about son, we have an audience"?

[paulhouk03]

PLO next week so should be fun
 will be good to learn live PLO

[jackinbeat]

Can you hear me, Mother?

lol, whover selects the players next time someone remind them live streams are supposed to be entertaining. Really, Rob tried his best to save a sinking ship, and without Kalmer it could have been suicude watch. Watching AQ folded pre to a squeeze from K3 was hillarious though, Alex you uber nit, really...??

My comment was simply because it had been suggested that the thread was locked, & I wanted to test it.

I don't wish to argue, but I don't think those players were there to entertain, they were playing for serious money (relatively), we should not expect them to ham it up for a non-paying audience, that would be the tail wagging the dog.

It was a 2/5 game, no? When I agree it may be a lot of money for some, I got to disagree it's entertainment (or should be), it's there to promote DTD surely, and maybe the players, those playing underrolled or folding everything are no good for the game or the viewers, paying or not.

I'm afraid I cannot agree with that.

Players are entitled to play tight if they wish. It may be out of fashion, but it's perfectly fine if that is how someone plays.

Should we really expect a guy, who is normally selective with his starting hands, to plonk down several thousand quid, & be told "spray it about son, we have an audience"?

No I agree, what you're saying though isn't what my comments we're supposed to highlight. You just need to choose a better line up, if it's being streamed the viewers are asked to watch at least put some charachters in the game, I know you got them at DTD, I've seen them. There's a chance to do somehting to promote the club, this stream last night was just a cash game that happened to be streamed as George said, and that's a shame as it's been done so many times, the International live streams were fun, the live from the bike is full of charachters, so why couldn't there be a bit of thought and creativeness put into this one.

It's early days though, plenty of chance for DTD to redeam themsleves and make it a stream worth viewing from what is the UK's premiere groundbreaking poker club.

Waste of an opportunity if now..

[Doobs]

I had this open on the side and I enjoyed it.  Rasta and Ed were entertaining, though when they went, the commentary wasn't so good. Always going to be snipers.  It really wasn't a tight game, or even close, but guess it could appear so if you are used to playing $2 tournaments.

 Cheers

[gouty]

I had a look for an hour before midnight. The reason it was a little lame from what I could see was the amount of uber dry flops.

K83 q82 etc. Not a lot of thin value betting on river either which is usually where the profit in NLHE cash lies. I got the feeling players did not want to put themselves in spots they would maybe normally take on due to the cameras.

Saying that hold em cash is a chore playing sometimes so viewing would be too at times. Will definitely tune in for PLO next week if Lil Dave is playing.

Well done dtd again for trying something new and ballsy.

[TightEnd]

Can you hear me, Mother?

lol, whover selects the players next time someone remind them live streams are supposed to be entertaining. Really, Rob tried his best to save a sinking ship, and without Kalmer it could have been suicude watch. Watching AQ folded pre to a squeeze from K3 was hillarious though, Alex you uber nit, really...??

My comment was simply because it had been suggested that the thread was locked, & I wanted to test it.

I don't wish to argue, but I don't think those players were there to entertain, they were playing for serious money (relatively), we should not expect them to ham it up for a non-paying audience, that would be the tail wagging the dog.

It was a 2/5 game, no? When I agree it may be a lot of money for some, I got to disagree it's entertainment (or should be), it's there to promote DTD surely, and maybe the players, those playing underrolled or folding everything are no good for the game or the viewers, paying or not.

I'm afraid I cannot agree with that.

Players are entitled to play tight if they wish. It may be out of fashion, but it's perfectly fine if that is how someone plays.

Should we really expect a guy, who is normally selective with his starting hands, to plonk down several thousand quid, & be told "spray it about son, we have an audience"?

No I agree, what you're saying though isn't what my comments we're supposed to highlight. You just need to choose a better line up, if it's being streamed the viewers are asked to watch at least put some charachters in the game, I know you got them at DTD, I've seen them. There's a chance to do somehting to promote the club, this stream last night was just a cash game that happened to be streamed as George said, and that's a shame as it's been done so many times, the International live streams were fun, the live from the bike is full of charachters, so why couldn't there be a bit of thought and creativeness put into this one.

It's early days though, plenty of chance for DTD to redeam themsleves and make it a stream worth viewing from what is the UK's premiere groundbreaking poker club.

Waste of an opportunity if now..

DTD don't need to redeem themselves at all. Quite a ludicrous comment. They are trying something new, and will no doubt develop it if they think streaming the cash has a future

In terms of characters, the game had some of the biggest characters DTD has, and would have been close to the line up I would have chosen. Its up to DTD to find a line up it wants to stream, not the players to entertain once they are on it!

[iangascoigne]

                  I am looking forward to eventually watching the stream.Interesting feedback on here. From my perspective the players where playing with their own money and it played out like a real normal Friday night game. I don't think the participants felt obliged to ' entertain' but just play poker with perhaps the pressure of not looking like a total donk.
                  As George has said watching live poker can be pretty dull.You are not watching the edited highlights of hundreds of hands but the tedium of marginal hands,dry flops and very few ' road crashes'. The players themselves commented on the absence of any really big interesting tussles for the viewers.I certainly avoided any cabaret poker and have had a major rub down from Ed on how I played a couple of hands (10,10) springs to mind.Sure there where many more.
                   Personally I think it will become more entertaining once the players get used to the format etc. There is no doubt that once Rob came it all kicked off but that was for little more than 30 minutes by which time he had doubled up Sean and Tom.It's a shame he wasn't there from the start although even Rob couldn't have maintained that level of intensity for a 7 hour stretch !
                      What the viewers saw was in effect the reality of a Friday night cash game.I admire DTD for attempting this,I was delighted to be asked and Teenage Cancer Trust and Help the Heroes are in the money. Also big shout out for Mitch's deep run in Baden. It's a shame he wasn't able to play this.
                         

[MANTIS01]

I tuned in for an hour or so also. I thought the one guy Ed was really articulate and he worked in tandem with Rasta well. In terms of the audio one improvement I would make is to have the players miked up so from time to time you could dive into the banter at the table. This would work particularly well if you have characters. Commentators talk about the hand in progress and then you dive into the tabletalk with players discussing it or giving rubdowns etc. We know watching one table of live poker is kinda dull so mixing up the audio and the visuals as much as you can would help matters.

One thing people need to get straight is poker players are not there to entertain an audience. They are not professionally paid entertainers.

The other thing is that as a poker player you need to assess the info available to you and make the best decision for you. If you adapt your decisions because people are watching and you are factoring in the entertainment value then you are an infinitely worse player. One of the biggest weaknesses a player can have is caring what other people think of you.