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« Reply #180 on: February 23, 2013, 02:26:49 PM »

All the work you're putting in, get the invoices out and start charging Rob by the hour too when you play  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #181 on: February 23, 2013, 02:36:01 PM »

Hi

I'm more of a lurker here but coming from the point of view of not knowing anyone who played personally, I thought the stream was good.  I had it on from 8pm until 2am or 3am (obviously on while grinding so wasn't completely focused on it).  I'm not sure what some of the people in the live chat were expecting to be truthful, this was a typical deep stacked cash game.  There was plenty of good poker on show but it wasn't a highlight show and most pots in poker are pretty uneventful.

There was a ton so typical to these games on show, the fuzzy feeling you get after being dealt a decent hand the hand right after you have aces cracked, the warm feeling you get when the most active player on the table is piling money into a pot where you hold the nuts, the numbness of being card dead, getting a marginal which now looks like aces and having one of the tightest players start firing.  It was how cash games happen.

From a technical standpoint I would say someone has to look after the sound for the broadcast.  Table mics need to be ramped right up plus there was occasional drop off in the booth.  Ed was exceptional in the anchor role in the booth and really worked well with Rasta.  Also Rasta suddenly talking like he was an announcer for the BBC in the 1940s every now and again when he was reading the iPoker stuff gave me plenty of chuckles.
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« Reply #182 on: February 23, 2013, 11:23:36 PM »

I think also a benifit to the players is that there was say on average 100 people watching the stream if just 1/2 of them decide that they wanna come play pokers at Dtd on a Friday in the 1/2 2/5 games it directly affects these guys livelihood even more so then if somebody studies any tell Alex has.

Btw you have this tell. When you put 2.5k in on a flop you always seem to have kk!
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« Reply #183 on: February 24, 2013, 12:20:34 AM »

Thought Ed and Rasta were great in the booth.

Enjoyed having it on the side while grinding.
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« Reply #184 on: February 24, 2013, 02:12:10 AM »

I watched the last few hours when the game was pretty damn deep and not many coolers. From a viewers standpoint I think it would be nice to see an ante introduced.
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« Reply #185 on: February 24, 2013, 12:19:06 PM »

I watched the last few hours when the game was pretty damn deep and not many coolers. From a viewers standpoint I think it would be nice to see an ante introduced.

couldnt agree more
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« Reply #186 on: February 24, 2013, 02:18:14 PM »

I think also a benifit to the players is that there was say on average 100 people watching the stream if just 1/2 of them decide that they wanna come play pokers at Dtd on a Friday in the 1/2 2/5 games it directly affects these guys livelihood even more so then if somebody studies any tell Alex has.

Btw you have this tell. When you put 2.5k in on a flop you always seem to have kk!

Do you think the obligation should be on customers to work hard to attract new business to somebody else's commercial venture? I think a lot of businesses these days are wise to getting customers to work within their business for free. A classic example is the self-service checkout at Tesco. The management must be fist-pumping this development hard because customers are doing the job of a checkout girl for free. Don't think it's a bad idea but would deffo draw the line at having to pay an entrance fee to use the self checkout and do the job of a checkout girl on behalf of Tesco.

If these fellas really are able to attract half the audience watching to attend DTD why are DTD charging them to perform that service? Personally think these guys are in a strong position moving forward and shouldn't sell themselves short because they wanna get their face on the telly.
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« Reply #187 on: February 24, 2013, 02:20:13 PM »

I agree mantis I think the game should be rake-free Tongue

Tesco self-checkouts are fucking ridiculously tilting, I refuse to use them on the principals you outlined.
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« Reply #188 on: February 24, 2013, 02:44:55 PM »

ok we'll rally for rake free next time, with me dave? Cheesy
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« Reply #189 on: February 24, 2013, 02:52:48 PM »

Thought Ed & Rastafish were fantastic in the box. Ed was a natural and spoke brilliantly about the game. When the game was slow they really kept the game alive and interesting.

Well done to them both!
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« Reply #190 on: February 24, 2013, 06:34:06 PM »

*blushes*

Really enjoyed stint in the booth. Will write a longer post with my thoughts on the stream concept when I get a chance.

Well done to DTD on further innovation/free content.

Firstly, thank you all again for kind words. Unless this is one massive and terrifically well co-ordinated level (perfectly plausible), you are all very kind.

So....

Being 'in the booth'

Very interesting indeed. I was rather blindsided by the request to commentate - arrive, walk through the door, Ian/Tom say "you're commentating", though I was certainly willing Smiley If I'm perfectly honest I have very little recollection of any 'colour content' I offered up, so apologies if there was a lot of nonsense in there!! In terms of the technical aspects of the game I am a mere poker enthusiast. At no point have I been a 'pro', though I am certainly fascinated by the game. From a purely personal/selfish perspective it was really interesting being in, and yet out, of the game. I'm sure I made the point several times that decisions are easier away from the felt, but I really can't emphasise this enough. I have watched streams in the past and 'seen' things clearly in my head, but I can assure you 'seeing' things clearly enough to articulate them well is bloomin' tough - imagine how tough it is in those spots to actually be in the game with your own dollar on the line!!

The game itself

The vast majority of poker games are hella dull. That's just how it is. This game was a full-ring NLHE cash game played slightly outside the comfort zone of a number of players present. That is in no way a judgement on their decision to play in the game, rather it is a simple statement of fact. Many will assume that this is the reason the game was perhaps a little staid at times, I would disagree.

I can only speak for the first 4hrs (the period I commentated)....but I remember just one cooler (Ian's AA Vs LilD's AKss), and even that hand featured a v. curious run-out that in this kind of game killed the action. It was actually, imo, a fascinating hand, but owing to the fact it didn't feature all the money going in, it was more interesting from a theoretical standpoint than a 'pain' standpoint. It sounds like things hotted up somewhat later in the evening, but the fact remains that live-streamed affordable stakes NLHE will always be a spectacle only for the 'purist'/(s)he who is familiar with the players. I go back to my original point....the vast majority of poker games are hella dull.

The stream itself

Difficult to be too sure as I was the otherside of the 'wall', but it felt like the stream itself (ie. video content, graphics etc.) worked pretty well? If people noticed specific items that they felt were tweakable and flag them up I'm sure DTD are all ears. Only one from my side would be a button that could acknowledge when a straddle has been posted as it aids in comprehension of the action Smiley

The standard of play

Pretty darn good I thought. I am no great authority so the next couple of sentences are essentially worthless but I was particularly impressed by three plays that, though they may not have featured heavily in the coverage (owing to its non-bias by dint of being broadcast live), were pretty strong.

Relatively early in the game LilD opened the   and fired two barrels on something like  Two Diamonds  

In itself many won't see this as anything particularly special (open/cbet/2nd barrell I would think are pretty stnd), for the way the game was playing this was pretty perfect and represented good aggressive play netting a nice return relative to the pots that had been played thus far.

A little later Alex opened the   three clubs and Ian 3bet the   small from the SB. Ian had recently lost a sizeable pot and those listening carefully will have witnessed a genuine and uncanny prolepsis from me that this coup would end badly. Alex peeled the 3bet IP, cbet the flop and floated the small c/r, before barrelling the turn (which brought him a FD and a gutshot) strongly, eventually seeing Ian fold the best hand.

There was an open and a call when Skalie 3b the   from the BTN. I think three came along incl Tom with the   Two Clubs and LilD with the   two spades

Something like   checked through to Skalie who got the half pot c-bet through, taking advantage of initiative and position. Well played that man.


If you want to watch cooler central / pots played out with 'fake' money, you can head over to pokertube.com for any manner of historical content. If you'd like to watch an interesting insight into a game that isn't that different from the one you play of an evening at the casino, I'd think this stream is a pretty darn good option. Wp DTD.
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« Reply #191 on: February 24, 2013, 06:37:12 PM »

One thing I noticed from the stream was that due to the delay, you were commenting on posts on the live chat when they were being posted but we weren't hearing that comment for 30 minutes. Was quite confusing at first!
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« Reply #192 on: February 24, 2013, 06:39:36 PM »

One thing I noticed from the stream was that due to the delay, you were commenting on posts on the live chat when they were being posted but we weren't hearing that comment for 30 minutes. Was quite confusing at first!

Ah yis! I do remember doing that for a while, then realising it wouldn't be working so well.....then forgetting said realisation shortly after before repeating the original mistake!!
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« Reply #193 on: February 24, 2013, 07:29:13 PM »

I agree mantis I think the game should be rake-free Tongue

Tesco self-checkouts are fucking ridiculously tilting, I refuse to use them on the principals you outlined.

Confirmed beyond a joke, abs worst idea ever.
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« Reply #194 on: February 24, 2013, 08:41:58 PM »

I agree mantis I think the game should be rake-free Tongue

Tesco self-checkouts are fucking ridiculously tilting, I refuse to use them on the principals you outlined.

Confirmed beyond a joke, abs worst idea ever.

Missing out on banana beat tho.
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