When is a threat not a threat?

[kinboshi]

It's usually the case that battery's not included. Especially at Xmas when you open any toys.

[bobAlike]

It's usually the case that battery's not included. Especially at Xmas when you open any toys.

I knew you were going to say that. Wrong thread but valid nonetheless

[Tal]

^^^^

Superb.

I have always wondered the legal difference between " assault" and "battery".

Why is it that we so often hear of folks being charged with assault, or "assault and battery", but almost never " battery"?

The reason for that is that you assault someone before you batter them.

If you swing to hit me, you have already committed assault before your fist hits my nose.

All the ABH is part of the same family: assault occasioning actual bodily harm is the name in the Offences Against the Person Act 1861. Common Assault was put into legislation the best part of 130 years later.

[tikay]

^^^^^

And if I may be a pain, the difference between....

Grievous bodily harm

Actual bodily harm

Bodily harm, if it exists.

[tikay]

.... One more, then I promise I will shut up.

The difference between....

Assault

Common assault



Thanks.

[Tal]

^^^^^

And if I may be a pain, the difference between....

Grievous bodily harm

Actual bodily harm

Bodily harm, if it exists.

Just the first two.

ABH is (iirc) needs to be more than transient and trifling, so bloodied nose, minor breaks, that kind of thing. Section 47 of the OAPA 1861.

GBH is really serious stuff, so if you give someone a rather hefty kicking and they're packed off to hospital for a few nights, you could find yourself getting charged with a "section 20" (from the 1861 Act). GBH is so serious, if this is what you set out to do and the victim dies, you can be charged with murder.

The lower the number in the OAPA, the more serious the offence, so section 18, for example, is wounding with intent, also called GBH with intent. The intent can be read as "intent to do a lot more"

[Tal]

.... One more, then I promise I will shut up.

The difference between....

Assault

Common assault



Thanks.

Answered already, 'ave I not?

Assault is making you think I'm about to hit you.

Common assault is the general name given to that and then walloping you (combining assault and battery).

[celtic]

Could you imagine how many police hours would be wasted if every threat had to be investigated?

Is it still a waste of hours even if just 1 life is saved?

No, but what I'm saying is, the numbers just don't work. Obviously that's wrong, but that's the way it is.

[bobAlike]

Could you imagine how many police hours would be wasted if every threat had to be investigated?

Is it still a waste of hours even if just 1 life is saved?

No, but what I'm saying is, the numbers just don't work. Obviously that's wrong, but that's the way it is.

Ok, if somebody said they were going to torch your favourite kebab house right after Nandos went bump, how would you feel then?

[celtic]

Could you imagine how many police hours would be wasted if every threat had to be investigated?

Is it still a waste of hours even if just 1 life is saved?

No, but what I'm saying is, the numbers just don't work. Obviously that's wrong, but that's the way it is.

Ok, if somebody said they were going to torch your favourite kebab house right after Nandos went bump, how would you feel then?

Something's are not allowed to be joked about. You just over stepped the mark. Shame on you.

[smashedagain]

Could you imagine how many police hours would be wasted if every threat had to be investigated?

Is it still a waste of hours even if just 1 life is saved?

No, but what I'm saying is, the numbers just don't work. Obviously that's wrong, but that's the way it is.

Ok, if somebody said they were going to torch your favourite kebab house right after Nandos went bump, how would you feel then?

Something's are not allowed to be joked about. You just over stepped the mark. Shame on you.

try to call the police

[bobAlike]

Could you imagine how many police hours would be wasted if every threat had to be investigated?

Is it still a waste of hours even if just 1 life is saved?

No, but what I'm saying is, the numbers just don't work. Obviously that's wrong, but that's the way it is.

Ok, if somebody said they were going to torch your favourite kebab house right after Nandos went bump, how would you feel then?

Something's are not allowed to be joked about. You just over stepped the mark. Shame on you.

try to call the police

Celtic made me feel that bad I just had to go to Nandos to invest in some chicken.