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« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2013, 09:43:44 AM »

The game wasn't that bad not much 3 betting pot tend to be 2-4 players


But I had a good hand  
Well it looked pretty to me
Wasn't too sure if its good to raise with anything here but don't like the idea of just flatting  with two players to act behind me

Not seen any one three bet to 50£ + in the game


If the game is super splashy, pot this. But be prepared to give up on boards you don't flop a strong draw or flop a set/good straight (read: not dummy end) on.

IMO 6plo is about exploiting people who play too loose pre because of how many cards you get, being OOP sucks in this hand for a lot of reasons but mainly because you're in the dark for 3 streets vs splashy people with 6 cards.
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« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2013, 09:45:15 AM »


Personally, 6 Card PLO, with a possible FIVE players behind us, NO, there is no hand we can raise for value in the SB.

It is a very simple hand, & game. Only the nuts will do here, & even if you flop the temporary nuts, you still have to hold.

I'm not convinced there is much skill needed here either. Just hope you flop the nuts, or a draw to it, & remember that ALL the money is going in. 
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« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2013, 09:53:43 AM »


Personally, 6 Card PLO, with a possible FIVE players behind us, NO, there is no hand we can raise for value in the SB.

It is a very simple hand, & game. Only the nuts will do here, & even if you flop the temporary nuts, you still have to hold.

I'm not convinced there is much skill needed here either. Just hope you flop the nuts, or a draw to it, & remember that ALL the money is going in. 

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« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2013, 10:05:26 AM »

was this at the 235 Thursday night?

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« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2013, 10:11:17 AM »

was this at the 235 Thursday night?

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Nope yesterday heard Thursday was crazy tho

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« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2013, 02:37:33 PM »

Yes you can raise hands, but only raise hands with big pairs, A-high suits or full broadyway run-downs, basically the only hand you could consider raising here that doesn't contain an ACE is KKQQJJ/KKJJTT/QQJJTT.

I actually LIKE raising the best hands here because it shallows the stack and somewhat aliviates the positional disadvantage, also with shallower stacks people will stack off lighter post-flop so providing we have a strong nutted hand this is a good thing imo. Basically we're going to need to be able to chk/raise ALL IN, or comfortably POT into the field.
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« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2013, 06:35:36 PM »


I actually LIKE raising the best hands here because it shallows the stack and somewhat aliviates the positional disadvantage, also with shallower stacks people will stack off lighter post-flop so providing we have a strong nutted hand this is a good thing imo. Basically we're going to need to be able to chk/raise ALL IN, or comfortably POT into the field.

Agree with this as you are getting in money ahead, and makes playing post OOP so much easier due to the lower SPR.

Negatives being if your 3b % is 0 then you are turning (1/3) of your hand face up especially from SB. IDK tho I like to gamble so don't mind inflating these pots Smiley
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« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2013, 10:30:38 AM »


I actually LIKE raising the best hands here because it shallows the stack and somewhat aliviates the positional disadvantage, also with shallower stacks people will stack off lighter post-flop so providing we have a strong nutted hand this is a good thing imo. Basically we're going to need to be able to chk/raise ALL IN, or comfortably POT into the field.

Agree with this as you are getting in money ahead, and makes playing post OOP so much easier due to the lower SPR.

Negatives being if your 3b % is 0 then you are turning (1/3) of your hand face up especially from SB. IDK tho I like to gamble so don't mind inflating these pots Smiley

Yh this is true but prolly irrelevant in thes live games because when you raise pre-flop from strong positions people assume you have aces 100% of the time. I've been playing for years with people who have watched me raise all number of different (albeit very strong) hands from this position yet if I were to do it tomorrow they will be convinced that I must have ACES.
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« Reply #23 on: March 10, 2013, 11:51:19 PM »

It's usually table dependent, I personally would re-pot based the fact that I'd want to narrow the field OOP and get more money into the pot, to a view of getting the lot if my hand improves on the flop and it makes C-betting a lot easier, gives you two ways to win the pot..

Also if you do pot, be prepared to either call a raise or re-pot (at which point you'll be playing your hand face up) based on the information that you've given Straddles to 8 in a 2-2 game (the fact you're playing 6 card Omaha) and you have the average of 3 players each hand I think it'll be a situation that if next to acts calls the others will call too, so if the person after you is either stuck, short stacked or loves to gamble it would be the right play to raise anyway and hopefully next to act doesn't mug you off by flat calling and re-pots, which would leave you heads up.

If you raise and you're not re-raised and the hand goes multi-way be prepared to give up on ugly boards and don't donk bet into the pot if you don't improve but if you do, lead out always lead out in 6 card omaha multiway as it's usually easy for people to catch up unless you flop 4 Aces or straight flush with your  and even if you do, still lead out..

On a side note, you seem pretty deep stacked for 6 Card PLO at 2-2 blinds, have you been winning a lot on the night? because this would also change the dynamic of the hand....
 
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« Reply #24 on: March 11, 2013, 12:41:07 AM »

It's usually table dependent, I personally would re-pot based the fact that I'd want to narrow the field OOP and get more money into the pot, to a view of getting the lot if my hand improves on the flop and it makes C-betting a lot easier, gives you two ways to win the pot..

Also if you do pot, be prepared to either call a raise or re-pot (at which point you'll be playing your hand face up) based on the information that you've given Straddles to 8 in a 2-2 game (the fact you're playing 6 card Omaha) and you have the average of 3 players each hand I think it'll be a situation that if next to acts calls the others will call too, so if the person after you is either stuck, short stacked or loves to gamble it would be the right play to raise anyway and hopefully next to act doesn't mug you off by flat calling and re-pots, which would leave you heads up.

If you raise and you're not re-raised and the hand goes multi-way be prepared to give up on ugly boards and don't donk bet into the pot if you don't improve but if you do, lead out always lead out in 6 card omaha multiway as it's usually easy for people to catch up unless you flop 4 Aces or straight flush with your  and even if you do, still lead out..

On a side note, you seem pretty deep stacked for 6 Card PLO at 2-2 blinds, have you been winning a lot on the night? because this would also change the dynamic of the hand....
 

Yeah sat with 150£ kinda nut peddled really and held in big pots
The person on my left was stacked earlier by me and topped up 500£

He called so did the other four flop was    pot was around 500 £

I check
Bb Check
Min raiser Check
Spanish Guy creamed his pants said how can I lose this pot and jammed 350£  super happilyJd x
Raf white tank called 300£ didn't see hand
I fold
The guy in bb who cold called my 3b called with qqtkx
Min raiser fold

Turn was three clubs
River 


Spanish guy was in tears
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« Reply #25 on: March 11, 2013, 12:16:45 PM »

 

Yeah sat with 150£ kinda nut peddled really and held in big pots
The person on my left was stacked earlier by me and topped up 500£

He called so did the other four flop was     pot was around 500 £

I check
Bb Check
Min raiser Check
Spanish Guy creamed his pants said how can I lose this pot and jammed 350£  super happilyJd x
Raf white tank called 300£ didn't see hand
I fold
The guy in bb who cold called my 3b called with qqtkx
Min raiser fold

Turn was three clubs
River  


Spanish guy was in tears

This changes the hand completely... You're playing a high variance game based on luck and aggression, against a table of people who want to gamble it up (so aggression may not even matter much) I'd say flat when you miss lock up your winnings and head straight for the cash desk, knowing you've been incredibly fortunate not to have done your nut...

Met a couple of Mancunian Chinese regs at the Mint Cromwell road the other day... They said the Omaha action in Manchester is crazy...  

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« Reply #26 on: March 11, 2013, 06:33:32 PM »


Yeah sat with 150£ kinda nut peddled really and held in big pots
The person on my left was stacked earlier by me and topped up 500£

He called so did the other four flop was     pot was around 500 £

I check
Bb Check
Min raiser Check
Spanish Guy creamed his pants said how can I lose this pot and jammed 350£  super happilyJd x
Raf white tank called 300£ didn't see hand
I fold
The guy in bb who cold called my 3b called with qqtkx
Min raiser fold

Turn was three clubs
River  


Spanish guy was in tears

This changes the hand completely... You're playing a high variance game based on luck and aggression, against a table of people who want to gamble it up (so aggression may not even matter much) I'd say flat when you miss lock up your winnings and head straight for the cash desk, knowing you've been incredibly fortunate not to have done your nut...

Met a couple of Mancunian Chinese regs at the Mint Cromwell road the other day... They said the Omaha action in Manchester is crazy...  



erm I havent seen it run that often but I only play 1-3 times a week. Thursday is prob a good day friday is abit hit and miss it depends whos there tbh


I dont wanna lock my winnings up because I want to play again I dont wanna be in the bad books with the regs

cashed out more anyway Smiley
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« Reply #27 on: March 12, 2013, 10:57:50 AM »

fuck the regs
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« Reply #28 on: March 12, 2013, 11:31:22 AM »

Why would you leave the game? High variance but always so good. One of the few games everyone walks away saying they have run bad and can almost mean it!
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« Reply #29 on: March 12, 2013, 12:56:56 PM »

Why would you leave the game? High variance but always so good. One of the few games everyone walks away saying they have run bad and can almost mean it!

Because you've 9x'd your buy in, plus you only play twice a week on average and the 6 PLO doesn't get going much, so if you lose money in the game you're unlikely to get it back anytime soon, hence the players that are losing would be gambling a lot trying to get unstuck, so the chances of doing some of your winnings is high...

On this occasion Paul Got lucky played well and won more on the night... I'd be surprised if Paul 9x's his BI playing NLH
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