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muckthenuts
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« on: March 12, 2013, 03:01:34 PM »

Villain is a very peely type of player who doesn't hand read very well. Doesn't get majorly ool and tends to play pretty face up in some spots, likes to raise for information. He perceives me on the aggro side and gives me a little less credit for hands than most, and i don't think he'll be perceptive enough to quite realise how strong my range should be here.

I open utg to £7. 4 calls including villain from MP (eff stack £160)

Flop

I lead for £21, he calls.

Turn

I bet £45, he calls after a short dwell. 

River

Wug?

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« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2013, 03:44:38 PM »

c/f
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« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2013, 04:06:46 PM »

thoughts on betting £35ish
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« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2013, 04:10:50 PM »

Bow to superior knowledge and expertise as ever, but shouldn't we bet think fold here?

Stubborn pairs and lesser aces call and a lot of hands that are beating us probably only flat here.

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« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2013, 04:22:22 PM »

Bow to superior knowledge and expertise as ever, but shouldn't we bet think fold here?

Stubborn pairs and lesser aces call and a lot of hands that are beating us probably only flat here.



pot is ~£160 and he has £87 back, it would have to be a pretty small b/f

i'd wanna c/f but i know i'd end up setting him in.
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« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2013, 05:00:48 PM »

Bow to superior knowledge and expertise as ever, but shouldn't we bet think fold here?

Stubborn pairs and lesser aces call and a lot of hands that are beating us probably only flat here.



pot is ~£160 and he has £87 back, it would have to be a pretty small b/f

i'd wanna c/f but i know i'd end up setting him in.


oops I completely misread this hand, sorry for the lazy post - probably just jam if your notes are accurate. his turn tank makes it closer though, I think.
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« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2013, 07:41:06 PM »

   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    43.750%     39.06%    04.69%                25            3.00   { AsKc }
Hand 1:    56.250%     51.56%    04.69%                33            3.00   { A2s+, Kc6c, T9s, 9c6c, 86s+, 76s, 54s, A9o+ }

Pretty damn close. We need 50% equity for a breakeven jam in a vacuum

I havent included A2-A5o or A6o/A7o/A8o since i expect him to raise flop/turn. Only given him the suited combos for "slow plays"

If we presume he never folds Ax and always fast plays 2p+ it becomes a slam dunk. In this case I will give him more 6x flush combos since he will be the peely type if he never folds Ax

   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    65.823%     62.03%    03.80%                49            3.00   { AsKc }
Hand 1:    34.177%     30.38%    03.80%                24            3.00   { A9s+, A5s-A2s, Kc6c, Qc6c, Jc6c, T9s, Tc6c, 9c6c, 54s, A9o+, A5o-A2o }
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« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2013, 10:35:09 AM »

check call
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« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2013, 11:48:02 AM »

check call

level?

Def the nut worse option. If we check it should be to check fold

Live players generally dont vbet thin and will check back hands as strong as 67 here.

There are no missed draws so he cant bluff either.
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« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2013, 11:52:46 AM »

Check your hand then pile every chip on top of another and slide in in like a mofo.

Keep looking nervous even if he tanks and you know you are winning.


£35-65 is fine as long as your happy making the read he would fold to a shove. Certain people deal with things a different way. One guy would call £200 into 60 if it wasnt all in, another would be more likely to call a shove.

Vs anyone who thinks your bluffing I'd jam here and keep up the image and doubt in his mind, especially if there are long term considerations to add into this.
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« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2013, 11:54:22 AM »

agree c/call is really bad, v few bluffs and he doesn't thinly jam aq here.
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« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2013, 12:04:57 PM »

for whats left in stacks seems like jamming is your only play. you can pretend you were bluffing if he snaps and if he folds he'll feel like you're aggro running him over and people will be more scared off you #grrrrr
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« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2013, 05:29:47 PM »

I lost to A9cc in the end. I debated c/f in game thinking shoving might be too thin but pretty happy that it was fine now
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