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Ragz
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Re: 4bet iso spot?
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March 21, 2013, 02:21:08 PM »
Considering you have to call the jam if Mond guy hadn't flatted I think it's safe to say shoving over his flat is fine, he would probably jam himself with the mid pairs, I think his range is extremely narrow here to exactly what he has and maybe a couple other broadways.
ps guys you can't "peel" pre flop
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March 21, 2013, 02:22:55 PM »
I'd never thought about that haha I always used peel for both pre and post, but yeh sort of see what you mean lol
Why can't you "peel" a flop though!?
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Quote from: cambridgealex on March 21, 2013, 02:19:33 PM
AK hand sounded like a good disciplined fold vs Umar
It was vs me.
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Quote from: cambridgealex on March 21, 2013, 02:22:55 PM
I'd never thought about that haha I always used peel for both pre and post, but yeh sort of see what you mean lol
Why can't you "peel" a flop though!?
Well I only ever see the term used to see one more card, not 3. If you were to use it as a pre flop term you'd have to be closing the action.
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Quote from: Ragz on March 21, 2013, 02:28:35 PM
Quote from: cambridgealex on March 21, 2013, 02:22:55 PM
I'd never thought about that haha I always used peel for both pre and post, but yeh sort of see what you mean lol
Why can't you "peel" a flop though!?
Well I only ever see the term used to see one more card, not 3. If you were to use it as a pre flop term you'd have to be closing the action.
Agreed.
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March 21, 2013, 02:43:45 PM »
I'm pretty sure Ray can have AJ/AQ/TT here, and wont fold any of them to your jam I dnt think.
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Quote from: SuuPRlim on March 21, 2013, 02:43:45 PM
I'm pretty sure Ray can have AJ/AQ/TT here, and wont fold any of them to your jam I dnt think.
I can definitely have it here as opener was really tight so good spot to flat, not sure I'm Romanelloesque enough to get the speech out though
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March 21, 2013, 03:17:39 PM »
Quote from: mondatoo on March 21, 2013, 02:49:30 PM
Quote from: SuuPRlim on March 21, 2013, 02:43:45 PM
I'm pretty sure Ray can have AJ/AQ/TT here, and wont fold any of them to your jam I dnt think.
I can definitely have it here as opener was really tight so good spot to flat, not sure I'm Romanelloesque enough to get the speech out though
Why would you flat AJ?
Sorry didn't really get to chat Ray, was all over the hop in the breaks. Obv managed to win a seat in the flip sat, so back tomorrow (and saturday)
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March 21, 2013, 03:17:45 PM »
Yeh seems massively optimistic for ray to get the speech out with a big hand to induce Jon to reshove behind!
Speech genuine 99% imo.
The bb crushes us though a lot despite what he says
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Quote from: rfgqqabc on March 21, 2013, 03:17:39 PM
Quote from: mondatoo on March 21, 2013, 02:49:30 PM
Quote from: SuuPRlim on March 21, 2013, 02:43:45 PM
I'm pretty sure Ray can have AJ/AQ/TT here, and wont fold any of them to your jam I dnt think.
I can definitely have it here as opener was really tight so good spot to flat, not sure I'm Romanelloesque enough to get the speech out though
Why would you flat AJ?
Sorry didn't really get to chat Ray, was all over the hop in the breaks. Obv managed to win a seat in the flip sat, so back tomorrow (and saturday)
Not specifically AJ just mean I would sometimes flat a big hand in this spot. Nps obv, hopefully see you Sat, nice life binking that flip lol.
BB just lost a big pot, I had only just sat down during that hand, Jon can say much better than me but it seemed like a pretty speculative river call at best, next hand he jammed utg and seemed pretty genuine when he said he wanted to go on the drink.
Some might know him on here, was from dat London, got offered 10% of the guy that won the PCA, wanted it but was short on Stars and couldn't deposit abroad, gg 140k, fuk his life, ouch.
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March 21, 2013, 03:53:44 PM »
As played seems like an easy jam, mondatoo just gave you 11k in overlay with his chat. Calling the first time round is pretty close I think but probably fine.
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Monda was obv hammered!
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Quote from: cambridgealex on March 21, 2013, 03:58:08 PM
Monda was obv hammered!
Haha, definitely a mistake opening my mouth, for a change.
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March 21, 2013, 04:09:31 PM »
lol Monda, I expect reduced mark-up next time I buy a piece for said speech
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Quote from: mondatoo on March 21, 2013, 03:31:31 PM
Some might know him on here, was from dat London, got offered 10% of the guy that won the PCA, wanted it but was short on Stars and couldn't deposit abroad, gg 140k, fuk his life, ouch.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_effect
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