The chilling words of a murderer?

[Graham C]

That's interesting Nakor, I'm suprised at that.

From Amnety International

"A 2003 legislative audit in Kansas found that the estimated cost of a death penalty case was 70% more than the cost of a comparable non-death penalty case. Death penalty case costs were counted through to execution (median cost $1.26 million). Non-death penalty case costs were counted through to the end of incarceration (median cost $740,000)."

http://www.amnestyusa.org/our-work/issues/death-penalty/us-death-penalty-facts/death-penalty-cost

[DungBeetle]

"Thought this thread was going to be about the bind/torture/kill guy as channel 5 recently replayed a documentary about it that I watched."

One of my friend's dads looks exactly like Dennis Raider.  It's irrational but I always keep a close eye on him and never let him walk behind me.

[kinboshi]

Nakor (and Graham), that's interesting.  Would be cheaper to just send Milli round and do away with the trial, sentencing, appeal, incarceration, etc.

[DungBeetle]

"was 70% more than the cost of a comparable non-death penalty case"

This all depends on the appeal process.  If it is a quick show trial than out back to the hanging tree then I daresay we can trim a few pounds off the cost of the process.

[millidonk]

Nakor (and Graham), that's interesting.  Would be cheaper to just send Milli round and do away with the trial, sentencing, appeal, incarceration, etc.

Exactly, I would do for 3/4 milli ball. #bargain.

NBC backs up Silo and Nakor, has some nice breakdowns of costs: http://www.kndo.com/story/15519792/what-costs-more-the-death-penalty-or-life-in-prison

[titaniumbean]

"Thought this thread was going to be about the bind/torture/kill guy as channel 5 recently replayed a documentary about it that I watched."

One of my friend's dads looks exactly like Dennis Raider.  It's irrational but I always keep a close eye on him and never let him walk behind me.

it's like watching a how to version of a criminal minds episode. facking crazy.

[DungBeetle]

Executing one guy cost $48,000 in OVERTIME?  How much does the bloke with the hood earn?

[DungBeetle]

$6k in travel?  $16k is "goods and services"?

Figures like that make me think that this analysis is somewhat ridiculous.

[kinboshi]

$6k in travel?  $16k is "goods and services"?

Figures like that make me think that this analysis is somewhat ridiculous.

I don't think they just call a black cab and chuck the driver £20 to take the accused/prisoner to and from court (or anyone else making the journey as part of the process).

[Laxie]

Phillpott, his wife and his mate were just found guilty of manslaughter of the six kids in that house fire.  Six kids dead and tax payers will be paying for three people's rent, food, health and utilities for however long the court sees fit when they're sentenced tomorrow.  I dunno...

[EvilPie]

Death penalty has zero deterrent effect - no one thinks 'If I get caught killing this guy I'll spend the rest of my life in prison - that's OK. Good job there isn't the death penalty, or I wouldn't do this'

The only reason to have the death penalty is economic - 5 feet of rope is way cheaper than keeping someone in prison for 40 years.

Do you have figures to back that up?

I don't mind if you keep the figures in your pants, I'll just take your word for it.

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There will be other factors as well (death penalty states may have something else in common which  makes them more violent, for example)

Yeah the other factors obviously have a lot to do with it. Levels of punishment have to differ depending on where you are. You wouldn't have the death penalty in a nursery for example. You also wouldn't make a neo nazi lifer stand in the naughty corner.

I'm pretty sure that if you introduced the death penalty to all of those states that don't currently have it the rates wouldn't suddenly go up.

Likewise if you removed it from all of the others it wouldn't go down.

Chances are it has no affect whatsoever, I just like the thought that if you maliciously kill someone you're on a one way ticket to meet with Mr Mayhem.

[DungBeetle]

Trial/Court costs:  $400k
Appeal:  $200k
1 year on death row:  $43k
Overtime:  $0k
Wages:  $1,000
Drugs:  $500
Travel:  $50

Total estimated death penalty costs

Court:  $600k
Prison:  $43k
Execution:  $1.55k

Total  645k

Seems more reasonable to me.

[DungBeetle]

Phillpott, his wife and his mate were just found guilty of manslaughter of the six kids in that house fire.  Six kids dead and tax payers will be paying for three people's rent, food, health and utilities for however long the court sees fit when they're sentenced tomorrow.  I dunno...

How is it manslaughter?  Were they trying for an insurance fraud and messed it up?  (haven't been following it too closely)

[kinboshi]

Matt, Mr Mayhem doesn't live in your pants as well, does he?

[kinboshi]

Trial/Court costs:  $400k
Appeal:  $200k
1 year on death row:  $43k
Overtime:  $0k
Wages:  $1,000
Drugs:  $500
Travel:  $50

Total estimated death penalty costs

Court:  $600k
Prison:  $43k
Execution:  $1.55k

Total  645k

Seems more reasonable to me.

You couldn't even stick him in a cab to get to and from prison to court, etc., in your budgeted costs