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EvilPie
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Phillpott, his wife and his mate were just found guilty of manslaughter of the six kids in that house fire. Six kids dead and tax payers will be paying for three people's rent, food, health and utilities for however long the court sees fit when they're sentenced tomorrow. I dunno...
How is it manslaughter? Were they trying for an insurance fraud and messed it up? (haven't been following it too closely)
The claim is - He wanted to frame his mistress for torching their house to win a custody battle. He used lots of petrol and it quickly got hotter than he'd expected, so kids never got out.
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Horrific
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What's the point of those 3 morons being allowed to live on?
the world frustrates me.
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I don't think this should be discussed in financial terms; it's a moral issue. Personally, I don't feel it's right to make a calculated decision to end someone's life if the threat to society can be removed. Too many advocates of Capital Punishment use the term 'imagine if it were your kid, etc, etc'. Think this topic requires a rational approach, not one fuelled by emotion.
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I don't think this should be discussed in financial terms; it's a moral issue. Personally, I don't feel it's right to make a calculated decision to end someone's life if the threat to society can be removed. Too many advocates of Capital Punishment use the term 'imagine if it were your kid, etc, etc'. Think this topic requires a rational approach, not one fuelled by emotion.
Are love, compassion, empathy etc not emotions?
Do they not form part of the rationale, which ever side your on?
I'm fence sitting atm btw, but I'm leaning toward Hislop.
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Quote from: snoopy1239 on April 02, 2013, 07:10:03 PM
I don't think this should be discussed in financial terms; it's a moral issue. Personally, I don't feel it's right to make a calculated decision to end someone's life if the threat to society can be removed. Too many advocates of Capital Punishment use the term 'imagine if it were your kid, etc, etc'. Think this topic requires a rational approach, not one fuelled by emotion.
Are love, compassion, empathy etc not emotions?
Do they not form part of the rationale, which ever side your on?
I'm fence sitting atm btw, but I'm leaning toward Hislop.
You can get specialist shoes to sort that out.
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A) It costs more
B) Mistakes have been made
But in some cases you could probably make a strongish argument for it, at least in the case Keith mentioned. However, am I the only one who finds executions that are viewed absolutely abhorrent. It does scare me that people want to watch executions.
Beaneh unfortunately the world is not cut and dried. I am sure the convicted will suffer more knowing what they have done and having to live with it rather than being executed.
Wow, read more about the case. Horrific.
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"However, am I the only one who finds executions that are viewed absolutely abhorrent. It does scare me that people want to watch executions. "
The point of an execution (in my mind) should be to repair the morale of society. Thus I think the execution itself should be freely available for public consumption.
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Quote from: DungBeetle on April 03, 2013, 10:54:42 AM
"However, am I the only one who finds executions that are viewed absolutely abhorrent. It does scare me that people want to watch executions. "
The point of an execution (in my mind) should be to repair the morale of society. Thus I think the execution itself should be freely available for public consumption.
pardon? We're hundreds of years away from that barbarism in the UK.
The argument for captial punishment falls down, and will always do so, because of miscarriages of justice of which there have been many in the past and no doubt will be again
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Have no problem with death sentence in some cases where there is clearly no doubt they did it and admitted it etc. Anders Brevik or whatever his name is springs to mind as an example.
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Quote from: Woodsey on April 03, 2013, 11:14:30 AM
Have no problem with death sentence in some cases where there is clearly no doubt they did it and admitted it etc. Anders Brevik or whatever his name is springs to mind as an example.
How does a system ensure that there's 'no doubt'?
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Quote from: kinboshi on April 03, 2013, 11:16:22 AM
Quote from: Woodsey on April 03, 2013, 11:14:30 AM
Have no problem with death sentence in some cases where there is clearly no doubt they did it and admitted it etc. Anders Brevik or whatever his name is springs to mind as an example.
How does a system ensure that there's 'no doubt'?
Difficult one, but for sure there are some cases where the person was caught red handed admitted it etc and there really is no doubt. The above example is one and there are others.
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Quote from: Woodsey on April 03, 2013, 11:26:30 AM
Quote from: kinboshi on April 03, 2013, 11:16:22 AM
Quote from: Woodsey on April 03, 2013, 11:14:30 AM
Have no problem with death sentence in some cases where there is clearly no doubt they did it and admitted it etc. Anders Brevik or whatever his name is springs to mind as an example.
How does a system ensure that there's 'no doubt'?
Difficult one, but for sure there are some cases where the person was caught red handed admitted it etc and there really is no doubt. The above example is one and there are others.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/themes/crime_and_punishment/miscarriages_of_justice/default.stm
A lot of those 'admitted' their guilt.
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