Facing turn re-raise. 30nl

[AJR14]

Hand from last night

30nl

Villain 1 - Good Taggy Reg. Been around for a while and plays anything from 20nl - 50nl. They come across as a thinking player. im certain they will see me as a bit laggy. i may not have the best image to him. They may view me as spewy at times. They can bluff but is fairly rare (that i know of). They have been playing slightly looser than normal this session but not majorly.

Villain 2 is unknown

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Villain 1 opens to 90p in CO, i have   on the button and call. Villain 2 calls out of SB

Villain 1 has £70
Villain 2 has £41
I have $60

Flop comes         Pot £3.00

Villain 2 checks, Villain 1 doesn't cbet and checks, i bet £1.70. both call

Turn         Pot £8.10

Both check, i bet £5, villain 2 calls, villain 1 raises to £12.00



What do we do? if we call what is the river plan? Me and Villain 1 started 200bb deep

I fully expect villain to cbet a value hand on the flop but could be wrong. Im struggling  to see what hands the villain will take this line with. I have seen villain take a simalar line in a 3bet pot (c/c flop rather than cbet) but they have fold the turn a lot but they have been known to c/c flop then c/r turn. i must stress these have been in 3bet pots though. i have no recollection of them taking this line in a normal pot.

[titaniumbean]

you should likely fold. we are ahead of AdQx but that's about it.

[muckthenuts]

this is sky? unfortunately it's a snapfold in my experience.

[mulhuzz]

this is sky? unfortunately it's a snapfold in my experience.

Suspect villain may be my housemate. Snap jam pls.

[titaniumbean]

this is sky? unfortunately it's a snapfold in my experience.

Suspect villain may be my housemate. Snap jam pls.

how does that make it a jam.  surely if he can be looser then it's a call.

[JustinSayne]

Call and decide river.

[pleno1]

yeh jamming is worst option, probably not folding.

[AJR14]

I folded. my thinking at the time was its multiway with a potential unknown (They are unknown to me but possible they aren't to villain) and their sizing is so small it looks like they want/expecting a call. They could be sizing their bluff that size for that very reason but i doubt it. Ive fired into 2 people twice and the other player has called twice so pretty much ruled out bluffs. Of course i could be wrong, hence the thread.

The only value hand i expect can c/c flop rather than cbet is 77 and 22. i would expect Higher FD's and QQ+ to bet flop. They never have 88/JJ or 7x imo as they bet flop and wouldn't raise turn with them. Any bad thinking?

To those saying call turn, are we expecting to fold a lot, if not most, rivers? if so what factors would we be looking for to make the river a call? and vice versa, if we expecting to call most rivers what factor influence us to fold? My in game planning is something i am trying to work on a lot.



Villain 2 did call the turn but folded to a large river bet when the  dropped so didn't get the info i wanted.

[AJR14]

this is sky? unfortunately it's a snapfold in my experience.

Yeah, tis Sky

[AJR14]

this is sky? unfortunately it's a snapfold in my experience.

Suspect villain may be my housemate. Snap jam pls.

Really? If so can you please tell me what they had

[rfgqqabc]

yeh jamming is worst option, probably not folding.

Can i ask why we aren't folding? Seems v.gross all-round and we have someone to act behind us.

[mulhuzz]

If its housemate he will 100% call worse vs anyone he thinks is decent.

[muckthenuts]

Combinatorically we do lose to very few things, but in reality a sky reg is just going to have 7777 or 222 always here. His turn sizing is just ridic too

[pokerzzzzz]

Ridiculously easy fold

[PathFinder]

Ridiculously easy fold

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