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« Reply #450 on: April 13, 2013, 07:40:15 AM »

But you do pay for it via your NI contributions so i dont get your point.

No you don't - NI contributions have just been a top up to income tax for almost as long as they've existed it's pretty much only ever been a symbolic difference.


if you do get fed . you get the bill afterward.

its called life

It' might be what Thatcher taught you to think life is but it's not what I think life is. Most people aspire to a society where we care for and look after eachother. It's why the Conservatives haven't won an election for 20 years and are as unpopular as ever today.

But more on point - what treefella suggests is the extreme level of a free market economy - that's further to the right than either Conservatism or Thatcherism.

Now that the difference has been illustrated people might be able to see the difference between what they think Thatcher did to promote selfishness and what she actually did.
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« Reply #451 on: April 13, 2013, 07:44:54 AM »

A friend of mine is from Rwanda and her mother spent some time in hospital recently. The system there is pretty much as advocated by treefella, only more so. Being hospitalised means that treatment and a bed are provided - the family has to feed and care for the patient. Perhaps the Thatcherites can come up with some more ways we can save money by emulating Third World standards.
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« Reply #452 on: April 13, 2013, 08:56:33 AM »

I thought Mark Steel's article on the Independent's website was an interesting read from the anti-Thatcher perspective:

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/mark-steel-you-cant-just-shut-us-up-now-that-margaret-thatchers-dead-8568785.html

It was followed yesterday by a debate between him and a pro-Thatcherite.  Another good article, IMO.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/thatchers-legacy-where-there-is--discord-could-there-be-harmony-8570460.html
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« Reply #453 on: April 13, 2013, 08:57:48 AM »

A friend of mine is from Rwanda and her mother spent some time in hospital recently. The system there is pretty much as advocated by treefella, only more so. Being hospitalised means that treatment and a bed are provided - the family has to feed and care for the patient. Perhaps the Thatcherites can come up with some more ways we can save money by emulating Third World standards.

No UK political party is proposing anything other than the NHS remaining free at point of delivery in all aspects, that's been the case since Atlee founded it.

We can argue about NHS Strategy, resources etc but what treefella suggests is completely out there in UK political tersm. Quite rightly in my opinion.
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« Reply #454 on: April 13, 2013, 10:01:24 AM »

Ignore its the Daily Mail (not easy I know!)

What if Thatcher had never happened......?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2308332/Cuba-sunshine.html
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« Reply #455 on: April 13, 2013, 10:09:39 AM »

Not to be missed......

Parliament channel re running the 79 Election all day.......including a cigar smoking Sir Robin Day.

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« Reply #456 on: April 13, 2013, 10:46:06 AM »

Ignore its the Daily Mail (not easy I know!)

What if Thatcher had never happened......?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2308332/Cuba-sunshine.html

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« Reply #457 on: April 13, 2013, 11:20:49 AM »

Not feeding the ill, frankly you cannot get any colder than that, the fact some people think thats fine is telling on their character..very telling. No point discussing it who entertains this.

If your in hosptial for a few weeks you lose alot of your benifits anyhows, so whatever the argument is via NI or taken away benifits you all already are paying for meals and other treatments you recieving.
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