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leethefish
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Re: Tin of worms (not beans)
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April 11, 2013, 12:59:51 PM »
Quote from: AndrewT on April 11, 2013, 12:54:59 PM
What is the debate then?
You just annoyed you can't go round shouting Paki any more without someone getting on your case?
Not at all
Why would I ?
I suggest you read the op again
The debate here is whether that comment was racist or banter
Same as when I get called baldy in this instance it called banter
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Re: Tin of worms (not beans)
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April 11, 2013, 01:46:43 PM »
Quote from: leethefish on April 11, 2013, 12:59:51 PM
Quote from: AndrewT on April 11, 2013, 12:54:59 PM
What is the debate then?
You just annoyed you can't go round shouting Paki any more without someone getting on your case?
Not at all
Why would I ?
I suggest you read the op again
The debate here is whether that comment was racist or banter
Same as when I get called baldy in this instance it called banter
The two just aren't comparable - if you honestly think that calling someone a 'Paki' so and so is the same as 'bald' so and so then you need to move into the modern world, as the guy in OP link needs to.
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Re: Tin of worms (not beans)
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Reply #17 on:
April 11, 2013, 02:12:07 PM »
Quote from: AndrewT on April 11, 2013, 01:46:43 PM
Quote from: leethefish on April 11, 2013, 12:59:51 PM
Quote from: AndrewT on April 11, 2013, 12:54:59 PM
What is the debate then?
You just annoyed you can't go round shouting Paki any more without someone getting on your case?
Not at all
Why would I ?
I suggest you read the op again
The debate here is whether that comment was racist or banter
Same as when I get called baldy in this instance it called banter
The two just aren't comparable - if you honestly think that calling someone a 'Paki' so and so is the same as 'bald' so and so then you need to move into the modern world, as the guy in OP link needs to.
Just to make this clear, before I get branded as a racist Thatcherite, I would never call anyone a Paki.
I have Pakistani friends who call each other Paki and they laugh at us and our political correctness.
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Re: Tin of worms (not beans)
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April 11, 2013, 02:33:55 PM »
Quote from: bobAlike on April 11, 2013, 02:12:07 PM
Quote from: AndrewT on April 11, 2013, 01:46:43 PM
Quote from: leethefish on April 11, 2013, 12:59:51 PM
Quote from: AndrewT on April 11, 2013, 12:54:59 PM
What is the debate then?
You just annoyed you can't go round shouting Paki any more without someone getting on your case?
Not at all
Why would I ?
I suggest you read the op again
The debate here is whether that comment was racist or banter
Same as when I get called baldy in this instance it called banter
The two just aren't comparable - if you honestly think that calling someone a 'Paki' so and so is the same as 'bald' so and so then you need to move into the modern world, as the guy in OP link needs to.
Just to make this clear, before I get branded as a racist Thatcherite, I would never call anyone a Paki.
I have Pakistani friends who call each other Paki and they laugh at us and our political correctness.
I wouldn't expect you to use the word Andy, and I believe you treat everyone equally regardless of their colour or race.
I have Pakistani and Indian friends who detest being called Paki - as it's often used as a derogatory term, prefaced or suffixed with bastard or not. It's the same as black friends referring to each other as 'nigga', it's very different to calling someone a nigger. When people are discriminated against because of the colour of their skin, or there is a long history of discrimination because of their race or colour, then using terms related to this discrimination is obviously far more than political correctness.
I don't know about too much discrimination against bald people as a group which has seen them being marginalised, discriminated against, physically abused or murdered. Which is why it isn't the same thing.
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Re: Tin of worms (not beans)
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Reply #19 on:
April 11, 2013, 02:46:28 PM »
Quote from: kinboshi on April 11, 2013, 02:33:55 PM
Quote from: bobAlike on April 11, 2013, 02:12:07 PM
Quote from: AndrewT on April 11, 2013, 01:46:43 PM
Quote from: leethefish on April 11, 2013, 12:59:51 PM
Quote from: AndrewT on April 11, 2013, 12:54:59 PM
What is the debate then?
You just annoyed you can't go round shouting Paki any more without someone getting on your case?
Not at all
Why would I ?
I suggest you read the op again
The debate here is whether that comment was racist or banter
Same as when I get called baldy in this instance it called banter
The two just aren't comparable - if you honestly think that calling someone a 'Paki' so and so is the same as 'bald' so and so then you need to move into the modern world, as the guy in OP link needs to.
Just to make this clear, before I get branded as a racist Thatcherite, I would never call anyone a Paki.
I have Pakistani friends who call each other Paki and they laugh at us and our political correctness.
I wouldn't expect you to use the word Andy, and I believe you treat everyone equally regardless of their colour or race.
I have Pakistani and Indian friends who detest being called Paki - as it's often used as a derogatory term, prefaced or suffixed with bastard or not. It's the same as black friends referring to each other as 'nigga', it's very different to calling someone a nigger. When people are discriminated against because of the colour of their skin, or there is a long history of discrimination because of their race or colour, then using terms related to this discrimination is obviously far more than political correctness.
I don't know about too much discrimination against bald people as a group which has seen them being marginalised, discriminated against, physically abused or murdered. Which is why it isn't the same thing.
Point taken in context. But I can see why an Indian would get offended
I do have experience of being racially abused as 1 of only 10 foreigners in a school of 1100 pupils. I got on with it and being bigger than most the school helped considerably.
No one was ever violent to me for being foreign but people have and still do slap my head for being bald
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leethefish
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Re: Tin of worms (not beans)
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April 11, 2013, 02:47:40 PM »
Quote from: AndrewT on April 11, 2013, 01:46:43 PM
Quote from: leethefish on April 11, 2013, 12:59:51 PM
Quote from: AndrewT on April 11, 2013, 12:54:59 PM
What is the debate then?
You just annoyed you can't go round shouting Paki any more without someone getting on your case?
Not at all
Why would I ?
I suggest you read the op again
The debate here is whether that comment was racist or banter
Same as when I get called baldy in this instance it called banter
The two just aren't comparable - if you honestly think that calling someone a 'Paki' so and so is the same as 'bald' so and so then you need to move into the modern world, as the guy in OP link needs to.
Again we are talking about the op here nothing more banter between friends
Like being called bald
So in this instance yes they are comparable
I will try not to comment further because I also have tattoos
Along with a bald head
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Re: Tin of worms (not beans)
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April 11, 2013, 02:50:26 PM »
How was it banter between friends? It was published in a national newspaper (loose use of the word newspaper, I know)!
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Re: Tin of worms (not beans)
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April 11, 2013, 02:53:13 PM »
Quote from: leethefish on April 11, 2013, 02:47:40 PM
Again we are talking about the op here nothing more banter between friends
Like being called bald
So in this instance yes they are comparable
I will try not to comment further because
I also have tattoos
Along with a bald head
Lee?
Clearly a joke before anyone loses it..
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Re: Tin of worms (not beans)
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April 11, 2013, 03:04:55 PM »
Just for the record .....
I don't take offence in the slightest for being bald as I have been a very very large amount of my life ........
Carry on !
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Re: Tin of worms (not beans)
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Reply #24 on:
April 11, 2013, 03:09:24 PM »
Quote from: millidonk on April 11, 2013, 02:53:13 PM
Quote from: leethefish on April 11, 2013, 02:47:40 PM
Again we are talking about the op here nothing more banter between friends
Like being called bald
So in this instance yes they are comparable
I will try not to comment further because
I also have tattoos
Along with a bald head
Lee?
Clearly a joke before anyone loses it..
Fantastic film.
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Re: Tin of worms (not beans)
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April 11, 2013, 04:47:47 PM »
Bald and paki just can't be considered the same.
I get what you're trying to say, but you're wrong.
Oh, and shut up you Greek twat psaras.
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Re: Tin of worms (not beans)
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April 11, 2013, 04:50:57 PM »
Quote from: celtic on April 11, 2013, 04:47:47 PM
Bald and paki just can't be considered the same.
I get what you're trying to say, but you're wrong.
Oh, and shut up you Greek twat psaras.
Don't ya just love sibling rivalry
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Re: Tin of worms (not beans)
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April 11, 2013, 04:53:49 PM »
Quote from: bobAlike on April 11, 2013, 04:50:57 PM
Quote from: celtic on April 11, 2013, 04:47:47 PM
Bald and paki just can't be considered the same.
I get what you're trying to say, but you're wrong.
Oh, and shut up you Greek twat psaras.
Don't ya just love sibling rivalry
Siblings, hmm...
You two in your primes.
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Re: Tin of worms (not beans)
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April 11, 2013, 04:57:50 PM »
Quote from: millidonk on April 11, 2013, 04:53:49 PM
Quote from: bobAlike on April 11, 2013, 04:50:57 PM
Quote from: celtic on April 11, 2013, 04:47:47 PM
Bald and paki just can't be considered the same.
I get what you're trying to say, but you're wrong.
Oh, and shut up you Greek twat psaras.
Don't ya just love sibling rivalry
Siblings, hmm...
You two in your primes.
See how hes looking at my arse. Somethings never change.
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Re: Tin of worms (not beans)
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April 11, 2013, 05:43:58 PM »
Quote from: bobAlike on April 11, 2013, 04:57:50 PM
Quote from: millidonk on April 11, 2013, 04:53:49 PM
Quote from: bobAlike on April 11, 2013, 04:50:57 PM
Quote from: celtic on April 11, 2013, 04:47:47 PM
Bald and paki just can't be considered the same.
I get what you're trying to say, but you're wrong.
Oh, and shut up you Greek twat psaras.
Don't ya just love sibling rivalry
Siblings, hmm...
You two in your primes.
See how hes looking at my arse. Somethings never change.
When you wearing that vest again? For the Monte Carlo? Fetching...
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