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« on: April 21, 2013, 04:09:13 PM »

Monte Carlo Day 2, both myself and villian (Pleno1) have been having a pretty tough time of it start of day 2 and he has just lost a pretty big pot where he tried to bruff a guy.

Pads 45k @ 8/1600/200 I just cover got like 50k

Pads opens button to 3200 i peel  from the bb seems pretty standard.

  i check/call 2900

Turn  I check planning to c/jam to my surprise Pads jams for 38k into ~14k

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What range do we assign Pads? I'm trying to stove the hand but I'm not exactly sure of his entire range in this spot
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I wouldn't normally try so hard, but didn't have another opportunity I could wait for. I wasn't ready to surrender what I WANTED SO MUCH, that easily, I couldn't guarantee a call with me staying stoic and relying on a flinch "top pair" calling reflex.
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« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2013, 04:54:28 PM »

3b or fold pre
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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2013, 04:59:09 PM »

3b or fold pre

peeling is by far the best/standard play
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« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2013, 05:12:42 PM »

3b or fold pre

peeling is by far the best/standard play

playing 28bb with an oversized ante I disagree

you have a semi nutted hand and no idea how to play it oop vs a competant villain post flop
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« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2013, 05:34:31 PM »

3b or fold pre

peeling is by far the best/standard play

playing 28bb with an oversized ante I disagree

you have a semi nutted hand and no idea how to play it oop vs a competant villain post flop

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« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2013, 09:14:34 PM »

Agree anything but flatting pre would be bad, not that it doesn't play ok in a 3bet pot jut calling is far superior.

But guess Tom doesn't want advice on pre flop.
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« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2013, 09:15:56 PM »

you are gona just 4b rip so wide over my 3b here and with a hand like 97s it just seems stupid, we have no blockers and it plays great post
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« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2013, 09:18:44 PM »

you are gona just 4b rip so wide over my 3b here and with a hand like 97s it just seems stupid, we have no blockers and it plays great post

we disagree.  oop vs a totally undefined range and a competant player with 26bbs (effective) back you are losing this pot more than winning it

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« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2013, 09:23:48 PM »

you are gona just 4b rip so wide over my 3b here and with a hand like 97s it just seems stupid, we have no blockers and it plays great post

I was confirming that I agreed with flatting btw. I don't think it's v close, just in case you misunderstood.



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« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2013, 02:46:21 AM »

Guess I just sigh fold here. I mean we're never in awful shape... and we're deffo ahead 25-40% of the time imo (obv thats a big spread, but wtf is his range).

Think I fold a pretty decent % pre here, never 3-bet, Pleno is someone i'd probably be less inclined to peel vs 28bb eff, 35 i'd be loving life and flicking in the call, but i'm sure it's still fine.
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« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2013, 02:29:50 PM »

Guess I just sigh fold here. I mean we're never in awful shape... and we're deffo ahead 25-40% of the time imo (obv thats a big spread, but wtf is his range).

Think I fold a pretty decent % pre here, never 3-bet, Pleno is someone i'd probably be less inclined to peel vs 28bb eff, 35 i'd be loving life and flicking in the call, but i'm sure it's still fine.

i think id call 97s and fold 64s.
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« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2013, 02:55:34 PM »

pleno just always has *it* here.
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« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2013, 03:15:47 PM »

peeling pre only option imo.
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« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2013, 03:29:38 PM »

Ignoring Pleno's range for the time being... what is your range for getting to the turn?
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« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2013, 03:51:15 PM »

Guess I just sigh fold here. I mean we're never in awful shape... and we're deffo ahead 25-40% of the time imo (obv thats a big spread, but wtf is his range).

Think I fold a pretty decent % pre here, never 3-bet, Pleno is someone i'd probably be less inclined to peel vs 28bb eff, 35 i'd be loving life and flicking in the call, but i'm sure it's still fine.

If you think you're ahead 25-40% of the time, it's an absurdly easy call, isn't it?
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