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TL900
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MC Nut Turn Card
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April 21, 2013, 04:09:13 PM »
Monte Carlo Day 2, both myself and villian (Pleno1) have been having a pretty tough time of it start of day 2 and he has just lost a pretty big pot where he tried to bruff a guy.
Pads 45k @ 8/1600/200 I just cover got like 50k
Pads opens button to 3200 i peel
from the bb seems pretty standard.
i check/call 2900
Turn
I check planning to c/jam to my surprise Pads jams for 38k into ~14k
Hero?
What range do we assign Pads? I'm trying to stove the hand but I'm not exactly sure of his entire range in this spot
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@MtSpewmore
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I wouldn't normally try so hard, but didn't have another opportunity I could wait for. I wasn't ready to surrender what I WANTED SO MUCH, that easily, I couldn't guarantee a call with me staying stoic and relying on a flinch "top pair" calling reflex.
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Re: MC Nut Turn Card
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April 21, 2013, 04:54:28 PM »
3b or fold pre
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TL900
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Re: MC Nut Turn Card
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April 21, 2013, 04:59:09 PM »
Quote from: outragous76 on April 21, 2013, 04:54:28 PM
3b or fold pre
peeling is by far the best/standard play
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I wouldn't normally try so hard, but didn't have another opportunity I could wait for. I wasn't ready to surrender what I WANTED SO MUCH, that easily, I couldn't guarantee a call with me staying stoic and relying on a flinch "top pair" calling reflex.
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Re: MC Nut Turn Card
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April 21, 2013, 05:12:42 PM »
Quote from: TL900 on April 21, 2013, 04:59:09 PM
Quote from: outragous76 on April 21, 2013, 04:54:28 PM
3b or fold pre
peeling is by far the best/standard play
playing 28bb with an oversized ante I disagree
you have a semi nutted hand and no idea how to play it oop vs a competant villain post flop
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Re: MC Nut Turn Card
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April 21, 2013, 05:34:31 PM »
Quote from: outragous76 on April 21, 2013, 05:12:42 PM
Quote from: TL900 on April 21, 2013, 04:59:09 PM
Quote from: outragous76 on April 21, 2013, 04:54:28 PM
3b or fold pre
peeling is by far the best/standard play
playing 28bb with an oversized ante I disagree
you have a semi nutted hand and no idea how to play it oop vs a competant villain post flop
rofl
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I wouldn't normally try so hard, but didn't have another opportunity I could wait for. I wasn't ready to surrender what I WANTED SO MUCH, that easily, I couldn't guarantee a call with me staying stoic and relying on a flinch "top pair" calling reflex.
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Re: MC Nut Turn Card
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April 21, 2013, 09:14:34 PM »
Agree anything but flatting pre would be bad, not that it doesn't play ok in a 3bet pot jut calling is far superior.
But guess Tom doesn't want advice on pre flop.
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Quote from: TightEnd on December 16, 2013, 12:59:59 AM
Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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Re: MC Nut Turn Card
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April 21, 2013, 09:15:56 PM »
you are gona just 4b rip so wide over my 3b here and with a hand like 97s it just seems stupid, we have no blockers and it plays great post
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I wouldn't normally try so hard, but didn't have another opportunity I could wait for. I wasn't ready to surrender what I WANTED SO MUCH, that easily, I couldn't guarantee a call with me staying stoic and relying on a flinch "top pair" calling reflex.
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Re: MC Nut Turn Card
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April 21, 2013, 09:18:44 PM »
Quote from: TL900 on April 21, 2013, 09:15:56 PM
you are gona just 4b rip so wide over my 3b here and with a hand like 97s it just seems stupid, we have no blockers and
it plays great post
we disagree. oop vs a totally undefined range and a competant player with 26bbs (effective) back you are losing this pot more than winning it
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Re: MC Nut Turn Card
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April 21, 2013, 09:23:48 PM »
Quote from: TL900 on April 21, 2013, 09:15:56 PM
you are gona just 4b rip so wide over my 3b here and with a hand like 97s it just seems stupid, we have no blockers and it plays great post
I was confirming that I agreed with flatting btw. I don't think it's v close, just in case you misunderstood.
@guy winning more than losing doesn't matter so much #wegotaprice is 1600 to win 200x9 + 1600 + 800 + 3200 =7600 we don't een need to win close to 50% of the time for this to be close to a profitable peel.
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Quote from: TightEnd on December 16, 2013, 12:59:59 AM
Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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Re: MC Nut Turn Card
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April 22, 2013, 02:46:21 AM »
Guess I just sigh fold here. I mean we're never in awful shape... and we're deffo ahead 25-40% of the time imo (obv thats a big spread, but wtf is his range).
Think I fold a pretty decent % pre here, never 3-bet, Pleno is someone i'd probably be less inclined to peel vs 28bb eff, 35 i'd be loving life and flicking in the call, but i'm sure it's still fine.
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Re: MC Nut Turn Card
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April 22, 2013, 02:29:50 PM »
Quote from: WotRTheChances on April 22, 2013, 02:46:21 AM
Guess I just sigh fold here. I mean we're never in awful shape... and we're deffo ahead 25-40% of the time imo (obv thats a big spread, but wtf is his range).
Think I fold a pretty decent % pre here, never 3-bet, Pleno is someone i'd probably be less inclined to peel vs 28bb eff, 35 i'd be loving life and flicking in the call, but i'm sure it's still fine.
i think id call 97s and fold 64s.
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Quote from: TightEnd on December 16, 2013, 12:59:59 AM
Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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Re: MC Nut Turn Card
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April 22, 2013, 02:55:34 PM »
pleno just always has *it* here.
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cambridgealex
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Re: MC Nut Turn Card
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April 22, 2013, 03:15:47 PM »
peeling pre only option imo.
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Honeybadger
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Re: MC Nut Turn Card
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April 22, 2013, 03:29:38 PM »
Ignoring Pleno's range for the time being... what is
your
range for getting to the turn?
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Re: MC Nut Turn Card
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April 22, 2013, 03:51:15 PM »
Quote from: WotRTheChances on April 22, 2013, 02:46:21 AM
Guess I just sigh fold here. I mean we're never in awful shape... and we're deffo ahead 25-40% of the time imo (obv thats a big spread, but wtf is his range).
Think I fold a pretty decent % pre here, never 3-bet, Pleno is someone i'd probably be less inclined to peel vs 28bb eff, 35 i'd be loving life and flicking in the call, but i'm sure it's still fine.
If you think you're ahead 25-40% of the time, it's an absurdly easy call, isn't it?
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