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[outragous76]

1) he ha 11 bbs so jams any pair pre

i refer you to cambridge alex on the john black cash hand!

i can think of at least 2 pairs that he peels pre off 11bbs (and that he continues with in this way)

which are? if they are under pairs to the board then we should get it in.

give over Pads

If you think people dont flat AA/KK off 11bbs your havent played enough MTT's (and we both know this isnt true)

[pleno1]

i think if he has AA/KK he just puts it in pre most of the time. But ok, it does happen sometimes its just a minimal combo.

So, I am fine giving him 1 combo of KK/AA combined, but it will not change the maths much at all.

[pleno1]

lets give him

1 combo of AA/KK
1 combo of a weirdly played 7
1 combo of an underpair
2 combos of 98s
1 combo of 98o
10 combos of random shit

I didnt give him ANY ax, although if we did give him in his random shit Ax then obv its great for us too.



 
 Equity Win Tie 
MP2  30.53%  29.86%  0.68% AdAh, 2d2h, JhTh, Jd8d, Td8d, Th8h, Ts8s, 9d8d, 9h8h, 8d7d, Kh9d, Ks9d, QhTd, Qh9d, JhTd, 9h8d
MP3  69.47%  68.79%  0.68% A9s



Ok, will now give him:


1 combo of AA/KK
1 combo of a weirdly played 7
1 combo of an underpair
2 combos of 98s
1 combo of 98o
10 combos of random shit
2 combos of random 5x

Equity Win Tie 
MP2  34.65%  34.04%  0.62% AdAh, 2d2h, JhTh, Jd8d, Td8d, Th8h, Ts8s, 9d8d, 9h8h, 8d7d, 5d4d, 5h4h, Kh9d, Ks9d, QhTd, Qh9d, JhTd, 9h8d
MP3  65.35%  64.73%  0.62% A9s


I'll now give him

2 combo of AA/KK
1 combo of a weirdly played 7
1 combo of an underpair
2 combos of 98s
1 combo of 98o
10 combos of random shit
2 combos of random 5x

Equity Win Tie 
MP2  38.34%  37.78%  0.56% KdKh, KhKs, 2d2h, JhTh, Jd8d, Td8d, Th8h, Ts8s, 9d8d, 9h8h, 8d7d, 5d4d, 5h4h, Kh9d, Ks9d, QhTd, Qh9d, JhTd, 9h8d
MP3  61.66%  61.10%  0.56% A9s


I'll now take away 50%!!!!!! of his random shit and keep in 2 combos of AA/KK

[BulldozerD]

i'd fold moreso because SB is still to act behind us, if simply HU i'd probably set him in.

[pleno1]

yeh it was late and it was super close, i could r/f to the final table basically as field so soft and 40bbs was huge, if sb was out would have just went for it.

[PathFinder]

I'm at work at the moment. But ill post why I feel it's closer to raise get it in vs donk bettor than fold when I'm back at home.

Also what did other villian do when you folded Pleno?

[pleno1]

we dont have to jam
we can make t like 90k and fold ot brazilian and gii vs the mug.

maybe we get a fold too.

i reiterate, i folded!

[PathFinder]

Of course jamming is awful. Don't think anyone mentioned jamming?! So what did Brazilian do when you folded? He was next to act right??

[wazz]

I can't imagine jamming here, we don't have much fold equity and we have 3 outs usually and sometimes none, you'd expect him to c/r draws rather than bet-commit.