$1k SCOOP level 1 spot

[youthnkzR]

PokerStars Hand #98584339850: Tournament #2013050083, $1000+$50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2013/05/14 22:18:15 WET [2013/05/14 17:18:15 ET]
Table '2013050083 3' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: happyfister (5420 in chips)
Seat 2: Elmagico19A1 (5170 in chips)
Seat 3: GaggleoKings (5560 in chips)
Seat 5: pablox55 (4920 in chips)
Seat 6: darek12 (3600 in chips)
Seat 7: G's zee (4820 in chips)
Seat 8: huiiiiiiiiii (5410 in chips)
Seat 9: tRaMp$d0PrAy (5050 in chips)
GaggleoKings: posts small blind 10
pablox55: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to GaggleoKings [ ]
darek12: folds
G's zee: folds
huiiiiiiiiii: raises 40 to 60
tRaMp$d0PrAy: folds
happyfister: folds
Elmagico19A1: raises 120 to 180
GaggleoKings: calls 170
pablox55: folds
huiiiiiiiiii: calls 120
*** FLOP *** [ ]
GaggleoKings: checks
huiiiiiiiiii: checks
Elmagico19A1: bets 298
GaggleoKings: calls 298
huiiiiiiiiii: folds
*** TURN *** [ ] []
GaggleoKings: checks
Elmagico19A1: bets 675
GaggleoKings: calls 675
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
GaggleoKings: checks
Elmagico19A1: bets 1498
GaggleoKings:

Villain totally unknown to me as i assume i am to him (0 hand on HUD) - locked on tracking sites (i tanked river hard on this decision)

Call / fold / sickojam?

[pleno1]

would lead turn and river and fold if we get raised, ppl get scared with jj and qq and dont bet river and i dont think you get tripled or even doubled here in level 1.

as played think its a fold due to his sizing.

[youthnkzR]

Bet otr was fast btw, like 2/3 secs

[Doobs]

His bet sizing pre doesn't look like aces and suggests he may not be that great.  Not sure what other hand we should be scared of.   I assume we didn't 4 bet pre so we could trap on this board?  

Stop slowrolling and call.  

[PathFinder]

ppl get scared with jj and qq and dont bet river

Really? in a $1k buyin event?

[DMorgan]

His bet sizing pre doesn't look like aces and suggests he may not be that great 

Can you expand on this? If you asked me what size I'd expect an unknown to 3b AA to here I'd snap go with 180

[pleno1]

His bet sizing pre doesn't look like aces and suggests he may not be that great.  Not sure what other hand we should be scared of.   I assume we didn't 4 bet pre so we could trap on this board?  

Stop slowrolling and call.  

hmm disagree, it would be std siying id assume.

[mulhuzz]

Definitely not raising as I can't see an unknown without history calling worse or folding better. Think it's defo more likely that they fold better (just Aces!) than call jacks or queens but don't see either happening really,

I think we have a better hand than were supposed to have here and villain can defo be value betting some stuff we beat like jacks/queens and bluffing with AK/AQ.

I can't for the life of me think how he can have 9x or boats so we almost have the very best hand it possible to have which mandates a call more than anything, I'd think.

[pleno1]

well raising for value is obv out of the question, dont think thats close.


jam would be a bluff, potentially sexy heh.

[muckthenuts]

would lead turn and river and fold if we get raised, ppl get scared with jj and qq and dont bet river and i dont think you get tripled or even doubled here in level 1.

This is a cool line i think

Seems genuinely quite a horrible spot esp with his river bomb but i think i would grit my teeth and call the river. We should lose to AA only and i feel like it's just a cooler if he has that exact hand. Given villain is an unknown in a scoop there's just a slightly higher probability you're up against something silly/overplayed

[Doobs]

His bet sizing pre doesn't look like aces and suggests he may not be that great 

Can you expand on this? If you asked me what size I'd expect an unknown to 3b AA to here I'd snap go with 180

I think there is a tendency for people to do something different with aces.  Aren't these sizings more standard heads up?  (It is a long time since I played a heads up SNG)

I am not saying he never has aces, just I'd be expecting them more often if he had raised to 120 pre. 

I am fairly glad this is early so I can call without going bust, but still calling.  Is it standard to assume unknown/ sharkscope hidden is more likely bad than good?

Think bluff shoving looks bad.  I don't ever expect unknowns to fold aces whatever I do.

The hand is obviously nasty, if he does have aces then he can value town us easily given our pre flop call.  I guess villain isn't ever thinking we are cold calling T9s here.

[theprawnidentity]

As youve showed no strength at all, and the guy is completely unknown (though a quick 2p2 search shows he's probably a thinking player), I would expect him to bet QQ and maybe even JJ for value just as often as AA given the way the hand played out.

Might make life easier by bet folding river?

[The Camel]

Pleno - you say you'd fold due to sizing.

What size bet do you call?

[Skippy]

What about pre?

Since you are in the SB, and you've cold called 3 bets, doesn't everybody know you've got KK, AA and a bit of QQ here- Do we ever play 22 or JJ or AK or T9 s this way? OK so we are very deep, but it seems easy to play perfectly against us with whatever the button has got since our hand is face up. (maybe I suck and I should cold call 3 bets oop with T9 a bit?)

I'd have though cold 4 betting was better since we could be bluffing some of the time.

[pleno1]

Pleno - you say you'd fold due to sizing.

What size bet do you call?

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