How bad is it to call here?

[cambridgealex]

People seem to be doing this a lot to me live, can calling be that bad?

250/500/50

Villain opens cutoff 1100, I 3bet btn with T7o to 2500, he 4bets to 3900, literal click back and I'm in position. He has 18k back. Felt like he was light a decent amount and could read him postflop decently well. Also felt he'd just 6in our eye a lot if we .

I know our hand is abs shit btw.

Assume hero has dem mad readz and is a lucky player.

[PathFinder]

fold pre??

[Mondeoman]

Its bad.  Change the 7 to an 8 and make it suited then its prob still not great but i might be tempted  

[outragous76]

But what is his "light"? Still ahead vs you when you miss?

Going to have an 8k pot  with 18k effective?!?! Sounding terrible to me

For the times he isn't light and you collect 1 pair you are going to pay him off

And not sure who is "they all do it", but I'd you are referring to gps players then it's reason enough not to copy

[Mondeoman]

Also you have to fold sometimes when you get 4 bet otherwise you just turn into a spew monkey - so you might as well fold when you 3 bet with an abs bag of bollox with no blockers.

[outragous76]

And 99% of live players just don't have a 6b bluff jam in them

Stop levelling yourself IMO

[lolwutwasthat]

Pretty easy defend ainec

[theprawnidentity]

can calling be that bad?

Yes.

[cambridgealex]

Pretty easy defend ainec

Yes Tim, finally someone with my way of thinking.

Yr getting like 7:1 pre IP how can you fold any two, presuming yr not up vs a nutted range. Make a pair and win. Which is what I did

[rfgqqabc]

Pretty easy defend ainec

Yes Tim, finally someone with my way of thinking.

Yr getting like 7:1 pre IP how can you fold any two, presuming yr not up vs a nutted range. Make a pair and win. Which is what I did

Just shove? I mean if we think he is light a huge amount and don't want to click it just let rip. Lots in the middle.

[bobAlike]

Pretty easy defend ainec

Yes Tim, finally someone with my way of thinking.

Yr getting like 7:1 pre IP how can you fold any two, presuming yr not up vs a nutted range. Make a pair and win. Which is what I did

Sounds like the Terry Jordan way. It seems to work for him.

[mulhuzz]

are you suggesting having no 3bf range Alex?

because if you're calling this you have to call literally everything.

also, assuming balancing issues are relevent, I don't think you can 5bet anything either fwiw otherwise your peel range is going to be farrrrrr to weak.

[PathFinder]

Who needs a 3b fold range when your too good for reverse implied odds

[Pinchop73]

I mean if a person is confident post flop then peeling can't be the end of the world, we need 15%, and we're 25% vs a range of TT+, AQo, AQs. Rarely are we going to need to worry about reverse implieds vs a live 4b.

[cambridgealex]

are you suggesting having no 3bf range Alex?

because if you're calling this you have to call literally everything.

also, assuming balancing issues are relevent, I don't think you can 5bet anything either fwiw otherwise your peel range is going to be farrrrrr to weak.

I don't have a 3b/f range when somebody min4bets out of position no. Any normal size I would ofc fold.

Balancing issues are irrelevant here. There's some spots where I'd never be light, and this is one of them (if I 5bet I mean) because I felt that he would pile it in a lot with hands like AT, KJ. I felt he expected me to 5b him, so I respond to that by having a value-only 5bet range and just peel the rest.