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[Derbylad]

PokerStars Hand #98632702904: Tournament #2013050101, $13+$13+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIII (200/400) - 2013/05/15 22:32:35 WET [2013/05/15 17:32:35 ET]
Table '2013050101 592' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: JIZOINT (9662 in chips)
Seat 2: Joe Santana (8639 in chips)
Seat 3: aistis001 (11485 in chips)
Seat 4: Giani Capat (30690 in chips)
Seat 5: absocke (28237 in chips)
Seat 6: BALKHASH88 (18313 in chips)
Seat 7: GHolden7 (18969 in chips)
Seat 8: pullenbirds (4095 in chips)
Seat 9: Theaetetus (55249 in chips)
JIZOINT: posts the ante 50
Joe Santana: posts the ante 50
aistis001: posts the ante 50
Giani Capat: posts the ante 50
absocke: posts the ante 50
BALKHASH88: posts the ante 50
GHolden7: posts the ante 50
pullenbirds: posts the ante 50
Theaetetus: posts the ante 50
GHolden7: posts small blind 200
pullenbirds: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to GHolden7 [ ]
Theaetetus: folds
JIZOINT: folds
Joe Santana: folds
aistis001: raises 400 to 800
Giani Capat: folds
absocke: raises 600 to 1400
BALKHASH88: folds
GHolden7: raises 2200 to 3600
pullenbirds: folds
aistis001: folds
absocke: calls 2200
*** FLOP *** [ ]
GHolden7: bets 3900
absocke: calls 3900
*** TURN *** [ ] []
GHolden7: ??

Thoughts on sizings and turn decision. New table only 3 hands on each player.

[PathFinder]

ive not looked into the stack sizes/pot size in depth but seems like a good barrel card.

[pleno1]

terrible barrel card, probably the worst.

[PathFinder]

So how does the  hit the villians range?

[DMorgan]

Q definitely the worst barrel card. Tough to find a hand that villain 3b/peels a cold 4 with that peels flop and folds this turn

I'd probably go a little bigger pre but that might be bad, would c/fold this turn I think he just has an overpair a lot, JTs sometimes and all of the suited broadways that peeled the 4b fold to the flop cbet except QJcc/KQcc that isn't folding now.

[outragous76]

terrible barrel card, probably the worst.

Q obv smashes his peel range - im check calling turn and meh folding unimproved rivers to any decent bet

[DMorgan]

terrible barrel card, probably the worst.

Q obv smashes his peel range - im check calling turn and meh folding unimproved rivers to any decent bet

What range are you giving him here to want to c/call?

[pleno1]

we have ak not aa.

[outragous76]

There are obv plenty flush hands that we beat Acxc types

I more likley think he holds the 9T QJ KQ type holdings that peel pre and just got there thou

obv depends on bet size and action (assuming he bets) - i guess with our stack size we may well have to fold (didnt give it much attention)

[pleno1]

if we check NO MATTER WHAT OUR STACK SIZE IS, if its 7 or 10000000000000 then we should fold.

[WotRTheChances]

c-bet smaller (2700-3100 is fine). c/f now. Can't see villain folding anything here... maybe TT/JJ, but villains range here is too strong to continue imo.

[rfgqqabc]

There are obv plenty flush hands that we beat Acxc types

I more likley think he holds the 9T QJ KQ type holdings that peel pre and just got there thou

obv depends on bet size and action (assuming he bets) - i guess with our stack size we may well have to fold (didnt give it much attention)

We have less than a pot sized bet left? I think your ideas about villains hand are completely off, he has peeled a cold 4bet.

[outragous76]

There are obv plenty flush hands that we beat Acxc types

I more likley think he holds the 9T QJ KQ type holdings that peel pre and just got there thou

obv depends on bet size and action (assuming he bets) - i guess with our stack size we may well have to fold (didnt give it much attention)

We have less than a pot sized bet left? I think your ideas about villains hand are completely off, he has peeled a cold 4bet.

so his range is?

[pleno1]

There are obv plenty flush hands that we beat Acxc types

I more likley think he holds the 9T QJ KQ type holdings that peel pre and just got there thou

obv depends on bet size and action (assuming he bets) - i guess with our stack size we may well have to fold (didnt give it much attention)

We have less than a pot sized bet left? I think your ideas about villains hand are completely off, he has peeled a cold 4bet.

it doesnt matter, its purely board texture orientated.

i challenge anybody to ever convince me that check calling ak ott after cbettin flop, hu, multiway, single raised, 3bet, 20bb, 100 bb etc deep on T9XQ

[outragous76]

Do as I say not as I do? You don't think you could peel ak 100bbs deep? Er ok