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« on: May 22, 2013, 07:12:27 PM »

PokerStars Hand #97698114452: Tournament #802010534, $20+$2 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXIV (6000/12000) - 2013/04/25 21:09:10 ET
Table '802010534 46' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 2: squintster (1389638 in chips)
Seat 3: LaliTournier (1180258 in chips)
Seat 4: toto2609 (134040 in chips)
Seat 5: "CHIPPEN85" (446358 in chips)
Seat 6: d.quang (594844 in chips)
Seat 7: pithiki (795177 in chips)
Seat 9: Ultraballs18 (406685 in chips)
squintster: posts the ante 1200
LaliTournier: posts the ante 1200
toto2609: posts the ante 1200
"CHIPPEN85": posts the ante 1200
d.quang: posts the ante 1200
pithiki: posts the ante 1200
Ultraballs18: posts the ante 1200
Ultraballs18: posts small blind 6000
squintster: posts big blind 12000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ultraballs18 [ ]
LaliTournier: folds
toto2609: calls 12000
"CHIPPEN85": folds
d.quang: folds
pithiki: folds
Ultraballs18: raises 24000 to 36000
squintster: raises 32225 to 68225
toto2609: folds
Ultraballs18: ?

Had zero history with Villain pre the FT, but a quick search when it started showed that he's a HS'ish reg living in Mexicowh.

For ICM's sakes, payouts were:

6233
4567
3364
2539
1781
1401
1071

What you sayin'?
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« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2013, 07:18:07 PM »

jamming it in his eye, pretty good spot to put pressure on you when your gona be isoing the presumed fish pretty wide.

edit : I would just complete pre too, just realised were in the sb so I dont really wana play in a bloated pot OOP
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I wouldn't normally try so hard, but didn't have another opportunity I could wait for. I wasn't ready to surrender what I WANTED SO MUCH, that easily, I couldn't guarantee a call with me staying stoic and relying on a flinch "top pair" calling reflex.
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« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2013, 07:29:12 PM »

Forgot to mention, I would say I felt I was significantly better than 3 of the remaining players. How much weight on my decision should this information have?
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« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2013, 08:29:43 PM »

Sigh jam I guess. Feels kinda close though. On the other hand I can't imagine me folding tens.
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« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2013, 09:01:32 PM »

It's pretty close, I guess I would fold but a jam can't be too bad; wouldn't jam 88 and would happily jam TT.
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« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2013, 09:46:15 PM »

+1 to complete pre. a limp utg with 10bb would be setting alarm bells off immediately unless he has been doing a fair bit of this sort of stuff but its not mentioned in the OP

as played I guess I sigh fold, agree with TT+ AQs+
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« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2013, 10:10:13 PM »

jamming it in his eye, pretty good spot to put pressure on you when your gona be isoing the presumed fish pretty wide.

I was just typing this out till I realised that we're 3x'ing into a 10bb stack AND its gonna cost us nearly 30% of our stack to run him.  Not only that, he's limped a 10bb stack early position and we've raised to isolate, its not like were not going to have a hand here.  I thought this was a fist pump shove but on inspection I'm also in the 'its close' camp.  Having said that, I know I dont fold in game.
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« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2013, 12:25:30 AM »

All hinges on whether limper has been limping a lot for me.

Probably just going '9 and a 9, lets spin' if he's limped more than once (and that's the reason we isod)

I'm the absence of that I think I'm probably gonna fold bit would happily jam TT as well,
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« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2013, 12:36:06 AM »

Limper confirmed dolt, hence trying to gii with him.

Obviously though, if I know this, Shaun Quinn aka squinster certainly will too, hence the coffin spot.

I just wasn't sure at the time if risking getting into a flip at best with three perceived weaker players remaining was the 'correct' option to take. A point flushy made in Camels thread made me want to post this to see what the lads thought I should do.
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« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2013, 12:40:47 AM »

jamming it in his eye, pretty good spot to put pressure on you when your gona be isoing the presumed fish pretty wide.

I was just typing this out till I realised that we're 3x'ing into a 10bb stack AND its gonna cost us nearly 30% of our stack to run him.  Not only that, he's limped a 10bb stack early position and we've raised to isolate, its not like were not going to have a hand here.  I thought this was a fist pump shove but on inspection I'm also in the 'its close' camp.  Having said that, I know I dont fold in game.

didn't even realise the limper had 10bb. Seems like a fold now all things considered.
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« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2013, 02:22:24 AM »

If limper has been limping lots we have to raise but we're still expecting action from him a decent amount, bb should know that and is raising us anyway
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« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2013, 02:31:25 AM »

Fold because we have to have a strong hand to want to rcall va the limper
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« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2013, 11:11:46 PM »

in game I fist pump rip it in, then wonder whether it was an ICM error after I lose!

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