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« on: June 02, 2013, 03:49:03 PM »

PokerStars Hand #99459592228: Tournament #807020025, $100+$9 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (125/250) - 2013/06/02 15:26:05 WET [2013/06/02 10:26:05 ET]
Table '807020025 3' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Valdemarius (7229 in chips)
Seat 2: 20alex430 (17139 in chips)
Seat 3: wieselsen (10046 in chips)
Seat 4: GreekToni777 (12885 in chips)
Seat 5: johansen1975 (3885 in chips)
Seat 6: Aussie_star1 (10220 in chips)
Seat 7: OneTreeHiII (12597 in chips)
Seat 8: DaDumon (5422 in chips)
Seat 9: fuddebuf (17887 in chips)
Valdemarius: posts the ante 25
20alex430: posts the ante 25
wieselsen: posts the ante 25
GreekToni777: posts the ante 25
johansen1975: posts the ante 25
Aussie_star1: posts the ante 25
OneTreeHiII: posts the ante 25
DaDumon: posts the ante 25
fuddebuf: posts the ante 25
GreekToni777: posts small blind 125
johansen1975: posts big blind 250
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to 20alex430 [ ]
Aussie_star1: folds
OneTreeHiII: folds
DaDumon: folds
fuddebuf: raises 250 to 500
Valdemarius: folds
20alex430: calls 500
wieselsen: folds
GreekToni777: folds
johansen1975: folds
*** FLOP *** [ ]
fuddebuf: bets 750
20alex430: calls 750
*** TURN *** [ ] []
fuddebuf: checks
20alex430: bets 1750

Thoughts on pre?

Turn was a bluff to fold out AQ, QJ, might have to fire river as well. Could potentially get AK, AA to fold by river too depending on river card.

Was a semi bluff as we have possibly 11 outs vs better hands

Was for value vs smaller pairs + clubs, Ax with etc

Thoughts?
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« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2013, 04:02:45 PM »

hmm, check back and hit a club imo.
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« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2013, 04:06:15 PM »

Pre and flop are obviously fine.

On that board we're raising most of our flush draws - nut flush draw, top pair + fd, sd + fd - so I'm not too convinced we rep an especially strong hand when we bet the turn. I don't much like the idea of betting the turn, expecting to get called by a better hand, with the plan of barrelling him off it on the river. We do have a huge amount of showdown value right now, though, and if we have outs to improve on the river, let's try to hit them. If the river blanks off and he checks, I could even see myself betting for value.
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« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2013, 04:08:20 PM »

how did we quadruple our stack pretty early in the "kickoff"?? if been v splashy or got lucky, then actually dont mind a 1-3 turn bet.
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« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2013, 04:09:27 PM »

hmm, check back and hit a club imo.

why?
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« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2013, 04:10:00 PM »

how did we quadruple our stack pretty early in the "kickoff"?? if been v splashy or got lucky, then actually dont mind a 1-3 turn bet.

AA>KK for 6k each.
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« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2013, 04:12:17 PM »

hmm, check back and hit a club imo.

why?

feels thin. this 75ö bet on flop feels strongish, id expect him to bet smaller with like 77cx, also if he was doing some random bluffing on flop and giving up he v likely bluffs a club otr.
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« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2013, 04:20:24 PM »

hmm, check back and hit a club imo.

why?

feels thin. this 75ö bet on flop feels strongish, id expect him to bet smaller with like 77cx, also if he was doing some random bluffing on flop and giving up he v likely bluffs a club otr.

bet/check/bet line rarely bluff though?
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« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2013, 12:04:03 AM »

worth making the play just to be able to start this thread imo, a legit triple merge, WP.
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« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2013, 03:18:18 PM »

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/news-views-gossip/basic-reasons-why-dwan-losing-durrrr-challenge-927127/

it's not a real thing.
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« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2013, 09:56:38 PM »

if you don't think it's a real thing then you're not worth discussing poker strategy with

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« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2013, 01:17:13 PM »

Tease.

Cannot find any resources saying anything about it, bar that 'no such thing'!

Cliffs?

Well look what I did here...

In any spot on the flop or the turn, you can have a value range, a bluff range and a semi bluff range. Here, I bet the turn as a genuine value bet, semi bluff and bluff. So I've merged those three ranges into one. Hence...

THE TRIPLE RANGE MERGE
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« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2013, 02:51:21 PM »

if you don't think it's a real thing then you're not worth discussing poker strategy with

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Well played Cheesy
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« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2013, 06:05:44 PM »

Tease.

Cannot find any resources saying anything about it, bar that 'no such thing'!

Cliffs?

Well look what I did here...

In any spot on the flop or the turn, you can have a value range, a bluff range and a semi bluff range. Here, I bet the turn as a genuine value bet, semi bluff and bluff. So I've merged those three ranges into one. Hence...

THE TRIPLE RANGE MERGE
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« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2013, 01:02:36 AM »

***** Hand History for Game 4864356039 ***** (IPoker)
$1000.00 USD PL Omaha - Thursday, June 06, 07:43:32 ET 2013
Table Francisi (No DP 50 bb min) (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Seat 1: ALBERTTO58 ( $748.00 USD )
Seat 3: xxsham1991xx ( $1199.50 USD )
Seat 5: schuschnix ( $2381.00 USD )
Seat 6: HERO ( $1000.00 USD )
Seat 8: Nutflu5h ( $2261.40 USD )
Seat 10: smoozy ( $1052.00 USD )
schuschnix posts small blind [$5.00 USD].
HERO posts big blind [$10.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO ]
Nutflu5h raises [$35.00 USD]
smoozy folds
ALBERTTO58 folds
xxsham1991xx folds
schuschnix folds
HERO calls [$25.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ , Two Clubs, ]
HERO checks
Nutflu5h bets [$52.50 USD]
HERO calls [$52.50 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ ]
HERO checks
Nutflu5h bets [$90.00 USD]
HERO raises [$320.00 USD]
Nutflu5h calls [$230.00 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ ]
HERO bets [$592.50 USD]
Nutflu5h folds
HERO wins $1409.50 USD from main pot

Pretty sure this is a triple merge FWIW.

BOOOO-YAKA.
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