is this the right thing to do?

[Oxford_HRV]

$5r pretty much readless, hasn't been on my table. 65 runners top 8 paid

prizes:
300
180
130
98
71
55
35
26

Full Tilt Poker Game #32762886820: $750 Guar (Extended Rebuy) (254718361), Table 7 - NL Hold'em - 1500/3000 Ante 400 - 09:19:50 WET - 2013/06/03 [04:19:50 ET - 2013/06/03]
Seat 1: DvH90 (32,600)
Seat 2: Karina2013 (27,292)
Seat 3: gertbock (88,300)
Seat 4: sumerki-2012 (21,271)
Seat 6: igloe (45,733)
Seat 7: anuplander (60,438)
Seat 8: bundesbruno (71,930)
Seat 9: HEMM7 (33,436)
DvH90 antes 400
Karina2013 antes 400
gertbock antes 400
sumerki-2012 antes 400
igloe antes 400
anuplander antes 400
bundesbruno antes 400
HEMM7 antes 400
bundesbruno posts the small blind of 1,500
HEMM7 posts the big blind of 3,000
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HEMM7 [ ]
DvH90 folds
Karina2013 folds
gertbock folds
sumerki-2012 folds
igloe raises to 9,000
anuplander folds
bundesbruno folds
17K in POT is it worth it?
HEMM7 raises to 33,036, and is all in
igloe calls 24,036
HEMM7 shows [ ]
igloe shows [ ]
*** FLOP *** [ ] (Total Pot: 70,772, 2 Players, 1 All-In)
*** TURN *** [ ] [] (Total Pot: 70,772, 2 Players, 1 All-In)
*** RIVER *** [ ] [] (Total Pot: 70,772, 2 Players, 1 All-In)
HEMM7 shows Ace King high
igloe shows a pair of Jacks
igloe wins the pot (70,772) with a pair of Jacks

personally expecting villain to be 3x opening a kind of hand range like 44+,A2s+,KTs+,QTs+,A8o+,KJo+

you guys will probably turn out to say this is super standard, especially the more i look at it.
avg is like ~14bb and considering icm n all that is this correct? how light should we be calling? should this be the bottom of my calling range here? thanks.

[the rage]

I haven't played much recently, but i thought i would have a go anyway.
I would say that, looking at the stack sizes of yourself and villian, everything points to villian having a much stronger opening range. he probably knows that he can't fold if the big blind shoves and is more likely raising a strong hand for value, rather than shoving. Dominating aces are a posssibility in villian's range, so i dont believe that your hand plays particularly well in this spot. I think that it would be better to fold here and try and get your chips in with some fold equity.

[BulldozerD]

would fold this as you don't have alot of fold equity and A7 plays pretty bad vs most opening ranges. Would probably draw the line at AT/AJ. I'd prefer to fold this and jam on the two shorter stacks after you.
This is presuming there are 8 left.

[Oxford_HRV]

i think it was quite a rushed decision by me. i agree now i should be waiting/folding for a better hand. what range should i be opening and should it always be an all in move?

[SubZERO]

Yep only one move - all in

99+ aq+  (a bit tighter than normal due to the 3x raise pre)

[dreenie]

Yep only one move - all in

99+ aq+  (a bit tighter than normal due to the 3x raise pre)

This ^

Fold the A7cc vs 3x open unless u have specific reads, just never gonna end well. Plenty of better spots.

[gouty]

I haven't played much recently, but i thought i would have a go anyway.
I would say that, looking at the stack sizes of yourself and villian, everything points to villian having a much stronger opening range. he probably knows that he can't fold if the big blind shoves and is more likely raising a strong hand for value, rather than shoving. Dominating aces are a posssibility in villian's range, so i dont believe that your hand plays particularly well in this spot. I think that it would be better to fold here and try and get your chips in with some fold equity.

This is quite correct. It's not about your hand its all all about opponents stack size. Whether you use M ratings or bbs this raise is telling you that he is committed to this hand pre flop for his stack unless you have loads of previous with him.

You need to shove that hand against an aggro bigger stack to give yourself a chance of the opponent folding. Overall 3 bet shoving is your best weapon with your stack on a ft but against min raise from a bigger stack is ideal.

I love dem fts on tilt. All the crowd looking etc.. Does that still happen?