Name a profession...

[aaron1867]

I'm not sure what point you are trying to make Tom. Anyone could create a book if they wanted.

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I'm not sure what point you are trying to make Tom. Anyone could create a book if they wanted.

And make a living from it?

[aaron1867]

I'm not sure what point you are trying to make Tom. Anyone could create a book if they wanted.

And make a living from it?

Any pay tax?

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I'm not sure what point you are trying to make Tom. Anyone could create a book if they wanted.

And make a living from it?

Any pay tax?

Poker players are probably the only self employed professional people in the country who pay every bit of tax they owe.

Your first argument was that chance was involved, now it's a tax issue?

[aaron1867]

I'm not sure what point you are trying to make Tom. Anyone could create a book if they wanted.

And make a living from it?

Any pay tax?

Poker players are probably the only self employed professional people in the country who pay every bit of tax they owe.

Your first argument was that chance was involved, now it's a tax issue?

It wasn't an arguement, poker playing is not a job or a profession. You solely earn income from poker and it can only be called that, IMO.

From what you are saying, being a drug dealer is a profession, yes?

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I'm assuming you think all American players are professional?  

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I'm not sure what point you are trying to make Tom. Anyone could create a book if they wanted.

And make a living from it?

Any pay tax?

Poker players are probably the only self employed professional people in the country who pay every bit of tax they owe.

Your first argument was that chance was involved, now it's a tax issue?

It wasn't an arguement, poker playing is not a job or a profession. You solely earn income from poker and it can only be called that, IMO.

From what you are saying, being a drug dealer is a profession, yes?

No. Not an argument, a friendly debate, but your post left no room for debate, you said "I'm right and you are all lolz"

And if you deal drugs for a living then yes, that is your profession. (imo of course)

[relaedgc]

I'd argue that you can be a 'Professional' Drug Dealer, so therefore it's also a profession. Not a profession to be advocated or accepted by society, but it fits the definition of profession.

I'm a professional Card Room Manager/Tournament Director. It stands to reason that there are Professional Poker Players who enable me to fulfill that job description.

It can be a leisurable activity. Like..football, for example. You also get 'Professional' football players.

[aaron1867]

I didn't say that Tom! lol

But I'm not sure how how something can be called a profession when it's effectively something something else & you're not paying tax, which yes is perhaps a point. You could add numerous thighs down as a profession if its all based on skill? Therefore being on the dole is profession & so on and so on.

Perhaps people like to call it a profession or a job to get that bit of self importance or worth?

[relaedgc]

They probably call it a profession/job because it is their main source of income, requires skill/knowledge to be consistently profitable and therefore it fits the definition perfectly.

[aaron1867]

They probably call it a profession/job because it is their main source of income, requires skill/knowledge to be consistently profitable and therefore it fits the definition perfectly.

Effectively you are still gambling to make a living and there is no guaranteed income however good you are.

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I didn't say that Tom! lol

But I'm not sure how how something can be called a profession when it's effectively something something else & you're not paying tax, which yes is perhaps a point. You could add numerous thighs down as a profession if its all based on skill? Therefore being on the dole is profession & so on and so on.

Perhaps people like to call it a profession or a job to get that bit of self importance or worth?

Perhaps that's why other people say it isn't a profession.


American player pay tax. Are they professionals?

[pleno1]

what would you say a poker player was though? unemployed?

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They probably call it a profession/job because it is their main source of income, requires skill/knowledge to be consistently profitable and therefore it fits the definition perfectly.

Effectively you are still gambling to make a living and there is no guaranteed income however good you are.

Bookmakers (Ladbrokes, William Hill) do that, are you saying that they are not professionals? (Are you going to answer this question btw?)

[WotRTheChances]

They probably call it a profession/job because it is their main source of income, requires skill/knowledge to be consistently profitable and therefore it fits the definition perfectly.

Effectively you are still gambling to make a living and there is no guaranteed income however good you are.

What about sponsored poker players? They can make a guranteed income if they are backed for everything and take a % of profits (i.e. can't lose their own money). They have a guarenteed income.

IMO you are a professional poker player when you fund your lifestyle soley through poker. It just happens to be a profession whereby you may require to live off of savings previously won for periods where you aren't profitable. We all know long-term the best players will effectively have a 'guaranteed income'.