Name a profession...

[RED-DOG]

They are a business offering a product and are paying tax, they are professionals.

Are American poker players professionals?

Haha, I see what you are doing Tom.

It's all different I suppose, but I don't think they are, just that the USA is taxed differently.

So poker players aren't professionals because they don't pay tax, but those that do pay tax aren't professionals for some other reason?

[stato_1]

Prositution is labelled "the oldest profession"

They don't pay tax, and have no guaranteed income.

Aaron?

I have no idea how prostitution works, can't say I've had any experience of it or what happens financially.

Me neither. I presume you know what one is though? I've no idea how nuclear fission works but I'd still class it as a profession

What if one may never bone again?

Is the oldest profession no longer a profession?

I would imagine its common sense to say you are a poker player, since if someone asks you "What do you do for a living?" Saying "I'm unemployed" doesn't actually answer their question.

[aaron1867]

They are a business offering a product and are paying tax, they are professionals.

Are American poker players professionals?

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Haha, I see what you are doing Tom.

It's all different I suppose, but I don't think they are, just that the USA is taxed differently.

So poker players aren't professionals because they don't pay tax, but those that do pay tax aren't professionals for some other reason?

Hahahaha, Tom don't twist it!

You don't need to be skilled to make a yearly income from poker, you don't pay tax either, most professions do, that's the point. Like I said you are effectively relying on luck to make an income, whether you are hundreds of percents in front or behind!

[aaron1867]

Although I made this point to see if we could get Patrick back on here in the rail

Hi Patrick!

[RED-DOG]

Aaron, is there even the slightest chance you will change your mind about this whatever I say?

[cambridgealex]

LOOK THERE HE GOES AGAIN, STICKING TO HIS GUNS!

LOCK HIM A SLOT IN THE ADVENT CALENDAR TIGHTY!

Hilarious watching Tom rip you apart btw.

[stato_1]

But if you get your money in "hundreds of percents" in front on a regular enough basis, you are significantly more likely to die in your call-centre office chair of a broken nose than not make a profit, which makes your argument pretty pointless.

[aaron1867]

Here comes the clique

[relaedgc]

A product isn't guaranteed to sell. It doesn't mean creating or selling said product means you aren't a professional. In as much the same as a professional poker player isn't guaranteed to win money.

It doesn't change the irrefutable logic of this simple fact: they are highly likely to do so.

[aaron1867]

I'm not going to change my opinion, no. But there we go, it's healthy debate, yes.

But stato, there is still go guarantee you will win, how many times its run.

We are solely on a poker forum, doubt we will see many that don't think it's a profession, but I would personally not say its mine whether it was or wasn't.

[aaron1867]

LOOK THERE HE GOES AGAIN, STICKING TO HIS GUNS!

LOCK HIM A SLOT IN THE ADVENT CALENDAR TIGHTY!

Hilarious watching Tom rip you apart btw.

It wasn't quite as hilarious as watching you come up with your own staking business idea btw

[GreekStein]

I'm not going to change my opinion, no. But there we go, it's healthy debate, yes.

were u dropped on your head as a baby?

[RED-DOG]

I'm not going to change my opinion, no. But there we go, it's healthy debate, yes.

Well that's where you have the advantage.

See, when I debate, I do so with and open mind and I am prepaired to accept good points that are well made.

Not really much point continuing is there?

Good luck to you. I don't think we will be debating again any time soon.

[aaron1867]

I'm not going to change my opinion, no. But there we go, it's healthy debate, yes.

Well that's where you have the advantage.

See, when I debate, I do so with and open mind and I am prepaired to accept good points that are well made.

Not really much point continuing is there?

Good luck to you. I don't think we will be debating again any time soon.

You've based it on that you said that there is skill involved, but you don't have to be skilled to make money from the game. You could be just incredibly lucky, no?

I wonder if we went on an open forum and discussed if it was a profession and if drug dealing was a profession, that they would agree?

[cambridgealex]

I'm not going to change my opinion, no. But there we go, it's healthy debate, yes.

were u dropped on your head as a baby?

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