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He posted on 2p2
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Quote from: celtic on June 07, 2013, 05:00:30 AM
Anyone seen wazz? He hasn't posted for nearly 20 hours!
Maybe he has reached the magic 300?
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Quote from: aaron1867 on June 07, 2013, 01:57:55 AM
Quote from: RED-DOG on June 07, 2013, 01:55:50 AM
Poker is a profession. How you can say we are lolz is lolz.
You really think this? You are playing a game of chance, it kinda takes away from those who actually have a profession? Is being on the dole a profession too?
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WTF happened with this thread, it gained 10 pages in the middle of the night!
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Cat amoung the pigeons
As a profession is 'a paid occupation' and in theory you could play poker for days/weeks/months and not get paid there is an obvious argument it can not be counted as a profession as there is no guarantee you will get paid
Being a professional poker is a different thing all together. IMO
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You can be a musician as a profession, but not be guaranteed to receive any income each month.
I met an artist last night who does some amazing drawings of people, but is spending a lot of time and money trying to get noticed and get that break. His profession is as an artist. He just needs some luck and the harder he works, maybe the luckier he will be.
The tax argument is obviously flawed, and Aaron knows this but his 'style' of debating doesn't allow him to concede he was wrong. He still hasn't said what is different between US poker players and UK poker players that makes one have a profession and the other not. If he decides that neither have a profession then the tax point is completely irrelevant.
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Unless the definition has changed, I'm at a loss to understand this "profession" thing.
As a rule of thumb, you need formal training & qualifications to be a "professional" anything. Professions include Musicians, Doctors, Airline Pilots, Accountants, Actuaries. Playing poker is not a profession, but we can be professional poker players. In the case of poker, "professional" simply denotes paid to do the job (via income), not an amateur.
Without such qualifications, surely we are just
tradesmen
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The other category would be labourers. That would include, say, artists, who paint pictures & do art type stuff.
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Dan, sometimes I back down, this has happened in the past, so I'm not always in the style of 'my way or no way'.
But you mention musicians and so on, but this is all in the context of if they was employed, etc. you are perhaps changing it, to suit, like Tom.
The tax argument is what it is, I don't know what the situation is on tax in the USA, but was again to suit the debate
but what about drug dealers? If we are going on Tom's theory, them drug dealing is a profession, but one which is actual fact ILLEGAL. So how does that work?
Is a profession not something to do with education too? Or is this where people come in and say their knowledge of the ten times table from primary school is relevant here?
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I think a profession is a very narrow set of careers in law, medicine, accountancy, academia, basically a position which would have impressed the local gentry in a Jane Austen novel.
Nowadays the meaning has expanded to include everything, therefore rendering it meaningless.
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Quote from: neeko on June 07, 2013, 07:25:44 AM
I think a profession is a very narrow set of careers in law, medicine, accountancy, academia, basically a position which would have impressed the local gentry in a Jane Austen novel.
Nowadays the meaning has expanded to include everything, therefore rendering it meaningless.
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As in cricket and football in the early years and i believe in horseracing today the word professional is used to draw a distinction between the amateurs and those who pursue a living through the activity.
This seems to fit the notion that given that some poker players aren't amateurs and have no source of income otherthan that which they derive from poker they are, professionals.
This does not suggest that poker is a profession in the way that accountancy or medicine are.
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Quote from: MelissaChloe on June 07, 2013, 08:42:50 AM
Technically, poker is not a 'profession', however you can be a 'professional poker player'
They both have different meanings.
According to the Oxford Dictionary:
Profession
'a paid occupation, especially one that involves prolonged training and a formal qualification'
i.e. a teacher
Professional
'engaged in a specific activity as one's main paid occupation rather than as an amateur'
i.e. a professional boxer
You can't argue with the dictionary.
I'm about to argue with the dictionary!
Should that not be "e.g." instead of "i.e."?
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Quote from: Cf on June 07, 2013, 08:45:46 AM
Should that not be "e.g." instead of "i.e."?
It most certainly should.
So you can be a professional poker player, but poker is not your profession?
Interesting.
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