High card wins for 25/25 trophy

[LB44]

This was ridiculous and if I was lucky enough to survive till the final table I would no way have agreed to this.

I had a very interesting conversation with Thewy about titles and 1st places in tournaments. They are so much more important in the long term of things than the extra money you get from the deal. Not often you get to play for a proper Trophy/Title no matter what event it is. Julian seems to have a knack of seeing tournaments out (look at his HM, most final tables are 1st's) the publicity (in the poker world) you get from a first place is far superior, for example Julian did a deal in the GPS Birmingham but they left abit for 1st...once the deal had been done Julian felt he was in a better position to win it now as everybody else seemed content in their prize money and let's spin it up for the rest mode and he took it down. The write up in the magazines had a big picture of him with the trophy and a big write up talking about HIM. Nothing about Barry Neville who got really bloody unlucky to get 2nd.

In the long term of things, it looks and sounds better to say I made a few final tables in xyz comps and was the GUKPT 25/25 series champion rather than I got a 3rd or a 4th in the GUKPT and a few other final tables.

High card for the win is just joke. The guy who actually won the high card was the shortest stack and he's down as finishing 5th oddly enough. 

[skolsuper]

Winning is important.

[cambridgealex]

This was ridiculous and if I was lucky enough to survive till the final table I would no way have agreed to this.

I had a very interesting conversation with Thewy about titles and 1st places in tournaments. They are so much more important in the long term of things than the extra money you get from the deal. Not often you get to play for a proper Trophy/Title no matter what event it is. Julian seems to have a knack of seeing tournaments out (look at his HM, most final tables are 1st's) the publicity (in the poker world) you get from a first place is far superior, for example Julian did a deal in the GPS Birmingham but they left abit for 1st...once the deal had been done Julian felt he was in a better position to win it now as everybody else seemed content in their prize money and let's spin it up for the rest mode and he took it down. The write up in the magazines had a big picture of him with the trophy and a big write up talking about HIM. Nothing about Barry Neville who got really bloody unlucky to get 2nd.

In the long term of things, it looks and sounds better to say I made a few final tables in xyz comps and was the GUKPT 25/25 series champion rather than I got a 3rd or a 4th in the GUKPT and a few other final tables.

High card for the win is just joke. The guy who actually won the high card was the shortest stack and he's down as finishing 5th oddly enough.  

Agree^

People laughed at me for the deal I did HU in the sky poker thing. I don't regret it for a second. I gave up like £500 in equity for trophy, title, winners photo, interview with sarah champion etc. Looks good on the HM with 1st 1st 1st like Liam says, so adds value to future staking packages etc. Loads of things. Plus I was knackered and we were 100bb deep so could've gone on for ages and the guy could play too.

[rfgqqabc]

This was ridiculous and if I was lucky enough to survive till the final table I would no way have agreed to this.

I had a very interesting conversation with Thewy about titles and 1st places in tournaments. They are so much more important in the long term of things than the extra money you get from the deal. Not often you get to play for a proper Trophy/Title no matter what event it is. Julian seems to have a knack of seeing tournaments out (look at his HM, most final tables are 1st's) the publicity (in the poker world) you get from a first place is far superior, for example Julian did a deal in the GPS Birmingham but they left abit for 1st...once the deal had been done Julian felt he was in a better position to win it now as everybody else seemed content in their prize money and let's spin it up for the rest mode and he took it down. The write up in the magazines had a big picture of him with the trophy and a big write up talking about HIM. Nothing about Barry Neville who got really bloody unlucky to get 2nd.

In the long term of things, it looks and sounds better to say I made a few final tables in xyz comps and was the GUKPT 25/25 series champion rather than I got a 3rd or a 4th in the GUKPT and a few other final tables.

High card for the win is just joke. The guy who actually won the high card was the shortest stack and he's down as finishing 5th oddly enough.  

Agree^

People laughed at me for the deal I did HU in the sky poker thing. I don't regret it for a second. I gave up like £500 in equity for trophy, title, winners photo, interview with sarah champion etc. Looks good on the HM with 1st 1st 1st like Liam says, so adds value to future staking packages etc. Loads of things. Plus I was knackered and we were 100bb deep so could've gone on for ages and the guy could play too.

Cheers mate!

Trophies can't play for hookers and blow

I think I'd take £££ very few companies I'd want sponsorship from and really don't think its worth anything like 15k in equity. A trophy would be nice and obviously the title has some nice bragging rights!!

[Tal]

This was ridiculous and if I was lucky enough to survive till the final table I would no way have agreed to this.

I had a very interesting conversation with Thewy about titles and 1st places in tournaments. They are so much more important in the long term of things than the extra money you get from the deal. Not often you get to play for a proper Trophy/Title no matter what event it is. Julian seems to have a knack of seeing tournaments out (look at his HM, most final tables are 1st's) the publicity (in the poker world) you get from a first place is far superior, for example Julian did a deal in the GPS Birmingham but they left abit for 1st...once the deal had been done Julian felt he was in a better position to win it now as everybody else seemed content in their prize money and let's spin it up for the rest mode and he took it down. The write up in the magazines had a big picture of him with the trophy and a big write up talking about HIM. Nothing about Barry Neville who got really bloody unlucky to get 2nd.

In the long term of things, it looks and sounds better to say I made a few final tables in xyz comps and was the GUKPT 25/25 series champion rather than I got a 3rd or a 4th in the GUKPT and a few other final tables.

High card for the win is just joke. The guy who actually won the high card was the shortest stack and he's down as finishing 5th oddly enough.  

Agree^

People laughed at me for the deal I did HU in the sky poker thing. I don't regret it for a second. I gave up like £500 in equity for trophy, title, winners photo, interview with sarah champion etc. Looks good on the HM with 1st 1st 1st like Liam says, so adds value to future staking packages etc. Loads of things. Plus I was knackered and we were 100bb deep so could've gone on for ages and the guy could play too.

Cue the next staking package having an asterix next to "This is my Hendon mob".

[MANTIS01]

How does giving up equity add value to future staking packages?

[dreenie]

Sure you can do deals when short handed in the business end of the tournament. But when there is a trophy and ranking points involved, the 2 players left have to play it out?

Why would u pay someone more money just to get 1st & the trophy? That defeats the whole object of winning IMO.

I remember when I was heads up in the £300 deep stack at DTD, Simon said we were allowed to discuss a deal but it had to be played out as there were different ranking points given for different finishing positions. In the end we didn't do a deal for the money (I was naive), and he smacked the deck hard and won more money & more points etc, but I was happy at giving it a real go at becoming the winner in that poker tournament.

Even Online - you have to play it out, whether that means going all in blind every hand or whatever, there needs to be 1 clear winner.

I think every card room running these types of tournaments should allow deals but keep an amount for the winner & the trophy, and the 2 people left have to play it out regardless.

[mouth]

In this comp the remaining 5 players chopped 5 ways equally.

Actual winner was Lawrence Gosney who didnt want the trophy. Second place didn't want the trophy either, so the players decided to high card for it. The guy who "won" the trophy was the short stack.

[Young_gun]

All about the trophy, not that i would take less to gurantee me the trophy

Bit ridiculous really 5 way chop highest card wins, what was the prizepool, probably irrelevant but i would never do this!

Hard enough getting me to do a bubble deal when i'm the shortstack lol

[Kev B]

This was the deal.


Gary Millington - £10,520
Laurence Gosney - £10,520
Gordon Smith - £8,000
Andreas Olympios - £7,000
Matthew Eardley - £7,000


A very unsatisfactory conclusion to a great comp. Leave some up top to play for IMO.

[action man]

In this comp the remaining 5 players chopped 5 ways equally.

Actual winner was Lawrence Gosney who didnt want the trophy. Second place didn't want the trophy either, so the players decided to high card for it. The guy who "won" the trophy was the short stack.

<3 lozza G

[snoopy1239]

Paul Parker would have left with more than first.

[Tal]

Paul Parker would have left with more than first.

Confirmed. He was proper valuable at school in my sticker book. I had dozens of Phil Babbs before I got him.

[Young_gun]

This was the deal.


Gary Millington - £10,520
Laurence Gosney - £10,520
Gordon Smith - £8,000
Andreas Olympios - £7,000
Matthew Eardley - £7,000


A very unsatisfactory conclusion to a great comp. Leave some up top to play for IMO.

TY very poor form IMO but hey ho 5 people obviously didn't think so..

[tikay]

Why is it poor form?

Why can't they chop it up if they so desire? Presumably all 5 agreed.

I would suggest they are entitled to do exactly as they wish, hard to see why that is "poor form". Everyone has different financial situations and aspirations.