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« Reply #60 on: June 11, 2013, 09:46:53 PM »

Yes geo I am A proud British Sikh Smiley

Thought so mate but had never asked, great to see you say British too and not just English, I'm a proud British Scot.

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« Reply #61 on: June 11, 2013, 09:47:32 PM »

What makes a good Sergeant?

What makes a good officer?

Sergeant - disciplined and professional, yet at the same time remembering how you were when you were young when dealing with the guys. Mentor to young officers at the same time.

Officer - cool, calm, intelligent with a good dollop of common sense and also the ability to be one of the lads and muck in.

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« Reply #62 on: June 11, 2013, 09:56:55 PM »

Put your hand up if your too much of a poof to join the army/navy/AF   No way I could do it, respect to you all.
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« Reply #63 on: June 11, 2013, 09:58:42 PM »

What a cracking thread, I'm glued the it.

Thanks to all concerned.
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« Reply #64 on: June 11, 2013, 10:02:59 PM »

What makes a good Sergeant?

What makes a good officer?

Sergeant - disciplined and professional, yet at the same time remembering how you were when you were young when dealing with the guys. Mentor to young officers at the same time.

Officer - cool, calm, intelligent with a good dollop of common sense and also the ability to be one of the lads and muck in.

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This reminded me of this memoir

The Junior Officers' Reading Club



Telegraph Review

I think it's really good so this is pretty much a recommendation - but if any of the Forces chaps have read it then their take on it would be a more informed perspective (?)
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« Reply #65 on: June 11, 2013, 10:03:42 PM »

Do you think national service should compulsory?

Is there much banter between the other forces if u work together (navy, RAF)

I spent 18 months at a tri-service base, played rugby with loads of RAF/Army lads and the banter was great. Even outside of Rugby I can't think of many people I didn't get on with, and I think the Signals lads were generally the only ones who got into shit more often than any others.

That was generally down to the fact they came to Chicksands straight from basic if I remember rightly, so it was their first chance to let of steam if you like, and there were definitely some exciteable characters amongst them.

Millidonk was at the same base too, so would be able to offer some insight from a RAF perspective and I imagine it wouldn't be much different. The RAF actually had a welcome party in the form of 'Kaz' I think it was back in 2002 Cheesy



hahaha fucking incred. Kazper the over friendly ghost. forgot about her nice. girl. Smiley .
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« Reply #66 on: June 11, 2013, 10:09:15 PM »

What are the best and the worst things about serving in the forces?

Good:

Travel obviously, I was fortunate to travel throughout the UK, most of Europe, Cyprus, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, US - Washington State and Seattle were immense.

Sport/adventure training (Hill climbing/rockclimbing/skiing/scuba diving) there are Forces associations for almost any sport. If you excel at a sport you can spend a good bit of your career doing nothing but your chosen sport. Think Akabussi - Kelly Holmes and others - so much of their career time spent doing sport at a high level and still making good rank (although not neccesarily for military competence) I had a period of about 5 years when I was football for 6 months and basketball for the other 6 playing for both the Regiment and Infantry sides.

Bad:

Time away from family, it's definately a single mans career nowadays - too many operations on the go, very little home time.

Being prohibited in entering some drinking holes or clubs, even in my home town, simply because I was a soldier. Edinburgh here has a large Garrison with 3 Regiments and has had for many years.

Witnessing horrific scenes, whether death and injury during operations or visiting poor areas of some of the countries we exercised in.

Death of colleagues/siblings.

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« Reply #67 on: June 11, 2013, 10:16:55 PM »

I saw this on FB today and it made me chuckle:

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It got me to thinking of Wazz's suggestion; also speaking to some people my life is completely alien to theirs - with so many misconceptions. The poster above is almost accurate!

Now I said 'Us' as I know Millidonk has served, as has Leethefish and also Geo.  I've not asked them to participate in this, but am sure they would jump in on areas I may struggle on - or give another perspective altogether as we are all from different arms and services.

I fully expect Geo to pwn the thread as he always does with his wonderful writing!

DISCLAIMER PLEASE: Please try and shy away from politically sensitive/controversial subjects.  Many of those have been covered in great depth in the past; also, as a serving soldier I have to be careful with what I say!  Remember this is more of a 'lifestyle' thread.
1. I kinda liked it in Vegas where nearly every weekend the U.S. forces guys left the Hotel in uniform and all the punters stood and applauded. Gushy but wtf. I loved it. It's a shame we can't be the same over here.

2. The last picture. Is this Wazz?
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« Reply #68 on: June 11, 2013, 10:18:37 PM »

What's the best/most rewarding single thing you've done in your careers?

Re roofed a school in Bosnia so the kids could get back to work.

I was an infantry soldier but I was already a qualified carpenter when I joined up.
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« Reply #69 on: June 11, 2013, 10:19:23 PM »

Chicksands Nov 02-Jan 05 and Sep 07 - Jan 09.

DSSS baby or D triple X as it was more commonly known. Wink

Nice thread JJ. making me feel all nostalgic, AFCO tomorrow.

I find civvies find it quite bizarre when I talk about the gas chamber,  NBC drills and the fact we are trained to shoot to kill.

also got to go to Washington with RAF, was pretty cool. I loved walking down the government officials queue in immigration like a boss.
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« Reply #70 on: June 11, 2013, 10:24:41 PM »

Most degen army story you dare tell us?  Cheesy

Don't know if you consider it degen and it's a story I've never told outside those that were involved.

1988 I was based in Girdwood Park in Belfast. We had been visited earlier that day by the 2 Signals Corporals who were to later drive into the funeral cortege and be brutally butchered.

I was known as a "mugger" in these days. I was very good at identifying known/suspected terrorists on the street. This had came by studying the reams of mug shots and photographs that had been built up over the years.

Later that evening I and 2 others were flown up to Castlereagh to view multitudes of photographs and most shockingly, the full footage of the whole incident taken by Heli Tele - the helicopter camera to identify any known names throughout the footage. What you see on youtube and the likes, whilst shocking, is only a portion of what we witnessed.

Suffice to say it had a huge impact on us all and I for one didn't cope well in the next few days.

I was given a day off and a night pass to visit the UDR club on site to go have a few beers. I joined a couple of others and some of the UDR guys we had been working with and overdone the drinking.

At last orders a couple of them invited us to join them carrying on the drinking at a house nearby. I stupidly accepted and was sneaked out of the camp hidden on the floor of the car his wife had came into base to pick him up in.

I can't even remember much about being in the house and the next thing I knew I was sitting in the Guardroom with the Guard commander, afriend of mine, wrapped in an old G10 blanket and bleeding profusely from a number of injuries. He was asking me, "who done this to you?" he was certain that I had been given a severe beating, however all I kept saying was "a car, I was in a car."

Word soon  came that there had been a huge crash as a car had hit some concrete bollards and the driver was seriously injured.

It soon transpired that after a few drinks one of the guys had offered to drive me back to base and would sneak me back in through the UDR gate. We never made it. I found out later that his story was that a car had approached him on the wrong side of the road and he had swerved to avoid but had hit the concrete bollards.

Judging by the injuries I had I can only assume I had been thrown from the car, my head, arms, chest all had lacerations and next day severe bruising, no exaggeration that I had bruising to probably 80% of my body.

I found that night that I had some great mates. The guard commander told me that I had been wandering aimlessly along the road and had stopped at the sanger at Crumlin Road court and asked the sentry for directions to Girdwood park base. He had alerted the guard who had came out and collected me.

They cleaned me up, got me to bed and spoke to the RUC when they arrived to say they had been informed that one of us had been in the car and needed to interview me. The guys arranged that they would come back next day as I was in no fit state. They also got them not to say anything to anyone and just arrive as a normal stop off next day for a brew.

They then spoke to the Sergeant who had gave me the time off and between them, somehow it was all kept in house. The RUC interviewed me next day and I couldn't tell them much other than I had definately been in the car. The driver did survive but with serious injuries.

The four main parts where I was very fortunate:

1. How I never died from the impact seeing the injuries I had, although no breaks (I was kept laid low for over a week after having seen the medic who confirmed no breaks)
2. It was kept quiet from the Sgt Major and OC - if not it would have ended any Army career.
3. From the site of the crash I had wandered about a mile, mostly through a very staunch Republican area and how I wasn't picked up by someone who potentially would have done me permanent harm I will never know
4. I was lucky to have such great mates around me when I needed them most.

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« Reply #71 on: June 11, 2013, 10:28:31 PM »

Good enough Geo, nice story  thumbs up
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« Reply #72 on: June 11, 2013, 10:37:31 PM »

What made y'all sign up ?



I was bored with floor boarding !!
I was getting into a few things I shouldn't ...wanted to Do something to make my mum proud !......lol
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« Reply #73 on: June 11, 2013, 10:42:13 PM »

What made y'all sign up ?



I was bored with floor boarding !!
I was getting into a few things I shouldn't ...wanted to Do something to make my mum proud !......lol

I didn't like telling girls I worked at sainsburys and probs wudda ended up in prison if i didn't do something.

and to play my part and protect my nation ldo.
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« Reply #74 on: June 11, 2013, 10:47:08 PM »

What made y'all sign up ?



I had dreams of being a soldier from a young age. As soon as I was old enough I went to the careers office, however as I had left school before sitting any exams I couldn't join as a Junior soldier was told to come back when I was 17 as an adult soldier.

I went to the Police in Edinburgh and asked to apply to join them, the young lady took me to a room, measured my height and told me I was too small and I was out the door within 5 minutes, I've had a disliking (and a few run ins) with the Police since.

I went onto the trawlers, deep sea fishing for a while, hardest thing I've ever done however saved quite a bit of cash then went back to the careers office at 17 and joined up

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