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« on: June 12, 2013, 10:28:24 AM »

Has everyone here seen Edward Snowden's interview on the NSA?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2013/jun/09/nsa-whistleblower-edward-snowden-interview-video

Certainly makes you think twice before sending an email or speaking freely on Skype.

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« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2013, 08:18:05 AM »

Don't know what all the fuss is about, I'd rather the government know what I've been upto than the wife.
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Ah! The element of surprise
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« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2013, 08:23:21 AM »

Don't think they should be allowed to randomly trawl for info on us, if they have reason to then fair enough....
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« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2013, 08:43:41 AM »

Don't think they should be allowed to randomly trawl for info on us, if they have reason to then fair enough....

It's never random - it's computer algorithms to hunt for suspicious behaviour.

It's pretty much just an extension of what has always been done but the bigger scale is just because the web is so massive.
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« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2013, 09:08:44 AM »

I hate the big brother scenario, but like the assumed protection.............. where do you draw the line?

The reality is that somewhere down the line, some president or senior leader will get busted by an unnecessary breach of his rights, It will be classed as public interest (despite the illegal interference ) and then we will just get used to it

Its obviously a terrible idea

(do I watch too many movies?)  Cheesy
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« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2013, 09:24:28 AM »

The line is being drawn in the wrong place looking at this
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« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2013, 11:25:27 AM »

Everytime there's a terrorist attack, they claim they need more of a budget and more powers so they can stop the next one. Everytime there's a period without a terrorist attack, they say 'look, all these powers and money you gave us have been justified, we stopped them all!'

Now if Murrrrrka had just chilled out a little about its foreign interests and oil over the last 60 years, then.... what kind of world would we be living in?
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« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2013, 12:05:48 PM »

The line is being drawn in the wrong place looking at this

He tweeted he was going to destroy America - there might have been corroborating metadata to back up that flag; e.g. he might have tweeted it from a location where terrorist activity had been previously located, or he might have previously displayed sympathy or support towards a terrorist organisation.

Is it really so bad that this would be flagged as something to look at?

Once that flag got passed on to actual human beings then they might have looked at it and possibly should have realised that it was obviously not serious - but wouldn't that be 'human error' rather than a problem with the surveillance flagging?


Also it could be a deliberate hardline approach to try and get across the message that if people didn't do stupid things - they wouldn't have to waste time looking in to it.
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« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2013, 03:01:04 PM »

Is this a surprise to anyone?

they been doing this for years and years...makes sense if you want to prevent terrorism.

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« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2013, 03:01:11 PM »

So the message is 'don't say stupid things or we'll arrest you and send you back home?'

Makes sense.
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« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2013, 03:01:33 PM »

Is this a surprise to anyone?

they been doing this for years and years...makes sense if you want to prevent terrorism.



Preventing terrorism is much easier than that.
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« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2013, 03:02:37 PM »

Is this a surprise to anyone?

they been doing this for years and years...makes sense if you want to prevent terrorism.



Preventing terrorism is much easier than that.


yeah of course it is.
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« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2013, 03:10:20 PM »

Put him in with Assange and Manning and throw away the key imo.
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« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2013, 03:25:06 PM »

What make me smile are the way people get their hair off with all this government surveillance stuff but don't say a word about how the big corps such as Google do everything in their power to get as much info about us to make as much money as possible under the premise that they are doing us a favour.
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« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2013, 03:32:18 PM »

Is this a surprise to anyone?

they been doing this for years and years...makes sense if you want to prevent terrorism.



yeah worked with the Bostom bombers presumably they were model citizens in all their online comms, so the authorities ignored the intell that said they were nutjobs.

All this has fck all to do with preventing terrorism and everything to do with making people close to government millions of dollars.  The guy that whistleblew was earning $200k pa reportedly and he wasn't that senior.  So what do you think the owners of these "contractors" are making.


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