2013/14 Ashes thread

[peejaytwo]

Carberry struggling against Lyon who Sir Geoffrey calls a "non spinning spinner"

[kp24]

Another bad day at the office

[Woodsey]

Perth next too 

Let's hope we can snag a draw here.

[TightEnd]

Looks like we'll lose the Ashes in Perth to me

95mph Mitch on a fast one at the WACA downwind against this top six?

Ouch

[mondatoo]

Looks like we'll lose the Ashes in Perth to me

95mph Mitch on a fast one at the WACA downwind against this top six?

Ouch

I'm not a fan at all of criticising a team based on short term results but as a batting line up we've been poor for quite a while now, why do you think that is ?

Thoughts on Graham Gooch as batting coach ?

[TightEnd]

Looks like we'll lose the Ashes in Perth to me

95mph Mitch on a fast one at the WACA downwind against this top six?

Ouch

I'm not a fan at all of criticising a team based on short term results but as a batting line up we've been poor for quite a while now, why do you think that is ?

Thoughts on Graham Gooch as batting coach ?

No particular thoughts on Gooch

Cook, Trott, Prior been out of form since May

Bell been excellent

Pieterson has his days

Root still learning

Cook is 28, Root 23? Them apart,  think the basic problem might be that a lot of the team at 32-33yo are getting slightly over the hill at the same time


If you take our Xi and look 2 years ahead...KP retires by then, Swann will be 35, Anderson 34

Cook?
Root - maybe the next captain
xxx (Ballance/James Taylor/Sibley etc)
xxx (Ballance/James Taylor/Sibley etc)
Bell
xxx (Stokes/Ballance/James Taylor/Sibley etc)
Keeper (Buttler?)
Broad
Spinner (Briggs etc)
xxx (Rankin, Mills,Meaker, Overton etc)
xxx ((Rankin, Mills,Meaker, Overton etc)

there is quite a rebuilding to do

[Tal]

"There's more brains in a chocolate mousse. I said to bat with care and attention, a bit of common sense. You're trying to make runs, but you're trying to bat through the day. If they don't bat well today, they can kiss the Ashes goodbye. That's as stupid a shot as you could ever see. Unbelievable."

Not even being from Yorkshire can save Joe Root from Sir Geoffrey's wrath.

[gouty]

"There's more brains in a chocolate mousse. I said to bat with care and attention, a bit of common sense. You're trying to make runs, but you're trying to bat through the day. If they don't bat well today, they can kiss the Ashes goodbye. That's as stupid a shot as you could ever see. Unbelievable."

Not even being from Yorkshire can save Joe Root from Sir Geoffrey's wrath.

Boycs is going bananas. Inferring Root should hang himself is a no no though.

"He could of caught it in his mouth" is a belter though.

Love TMS.

[Tal]

Carberry up to -70 now

[mondatoo]

"There's more brains in a chocolate mousse. I said to bat with care and attention, a bit of common sense. You're trying to make runs, but you're trying to bat through the day. If they don't bat well today, they can kiss the Ashes goodbye. That's as stupid a shot as you could ever see. Unbelievable."

Not even being from Yorkshire can save Joe Root from Sir Geoffrey's wrath.

Faced 80 balls, didn't play one confidently.

We are fooked, to many players way out of form.

[DungBeetle]

I may be alone, but I think Joe Root is a ghastly batsman.   Scored his 180, but after that even in England opening scored with a strike rate of 20 and then got out in the twenties.  Today scored 15 off 80 balls before slogging the spinner up in the air.  Dreadful player imho, but I'm told his technique is textbook.  Simply don't see why this guy is the next big thing.

[Tal]

I may be alone, but I think Joe Root is a ghastly batsman.   Scored his 180, but after that even in England opening scored with a strike rate of 20 and then got out in the twenties.  Today scored 15 off 80 balls before slogging the spinner up in the air.  Dreadful player imho, but I'm told his technique is textbook.  Simply don't see why this guy is the next big thing.

Ghastly and dreadful in the same way Kylie is ugly and Gareth Bale is short of pace.

[Longy]

This is like watching the ashes of my childhood, getting outclassed in every department. It wasn't like to be this anymore.

[horseplayer]

thought i was going mad but boycs really did say he should hang himself earlier

Yes we are being outclassed but that spell by MJ after lunch was unplayable

[TightEnd]

Geoffrey Boycott Ex-England batsman & Test Match Special summariser

"England can't win the Ashes, they are not playing well enough. History says you don't come from 2-0 down. There has to be some straight-talking.

"Bell must bat at three and someone needs to talk to Pietersen. He can't keep giving it away. Cook needs to get forward more and I don't think Stokes is good enough yet. Root needs to stop making mistakes, because what he did last year doesn't count.

"I'd play Monty instead of Swann. He doesn't seem to know what field to set. He's been a great performer, but we can't be sentimental.

"Matt Prior can't carry on this way, especially if he doesn't get any runs in the second innings. At the moment, we're in a state of flux, we're past our best."