Long term 2013-14 football market bets: Your tips please

[TightEnd]

Another point to note is the parachute payments don't count towards FFP.

So for QPR, Wigan, Reading this is a big advantage compared to the championship sides who failed to get up while overspending (leicester and a few others)

We know QPR could go any way this year,likely to be a lot of upheaval..but its another reason why I like Reading (having been through the managerial change) and potentially Wigan (a bit behind Reading in that process of change)

[DungBeetle]

Just regarding FFP - what happens if you ignore the rules?

Also - regarding trading between clubs with common owners, if Udinese "gift" Almen Abdi to Watford like they did with Forestieri, I assume the Football League will come up with a notional transfer fee to ensure Watford play by the rules.  That could be interesting - I remember the old days of tribunals before Bosman, and remember the players were nearly always undervalued.

You'd need to pay £4/£5 million to get Abdi, but I bet the FL bods deem his value at £1,352,850 or some nonsense.  Which is good for us of course!

[TightEnd]

Just regarding FFP - what happens if you ignore the rules?

Transfer embargoes, fines etc

Basically a team is left with the squad it has until such time as it reduces the wage bill to x% of turnover, via player sales, expiries of contracts etc etc

the other way to do it is to get turnover up, commerical income, sposnorship or loans converted into shares etc to get debt down

[horseplayer]

Just regarding FFP - what happens if you ignore the rules?

Also - regarding trading between clubs with common owners, if Udinese "gift" Almen Abdi to Watford like they did with Forestieri, I assume the Football League will come up with a notional transfer fee to ensure Watford play by the rules.  That could be interesting - I remember the old days of tribunals before Bosman, and remember the players were nearly always undervalued.

You'd need to pay £4/£5 million to get Abdi, but I bet the FL bods deem his value at £1,352,850 or some nonsense.  Which is good for us of course!

I look forward to reading Martin Samuel and his re hash of last seasons column within the month

[DungBeetle]

At least Holloway won't be in this division to go mental!

Martin Samuels' chip buttie will drop from his hands in shock when he sees the squad announcement next week I fear.

[horseplayer]

At least Holloway won't be in this division to go mental!

Martin Samuels' chip buttie will drop from his hands in shock when he sees the squad announcement next week I fear.

i suspect he will think "italian reserves" have no place in the quality that is the championship

[anthonyl]

No transfer embargos until jan 2015 and relegated clubs have one year exemption.

So will be a few teams risking it.

We will be fooked if we have to pay gus off in full, but could sell bridcutt for £5m or Buckley (turned down £5m from Swansea in jan) so we should be fine.

Watford can rip the division up if the other teams like udinese cover their wages!

[KarmaDope]

One bet I would easily suggest is LAY Chester at any odds to win the BSP.

Not a chance - staying part time and just sold their best player to Fleetwood. Only about 5-6 of the squad that won last year's title are still there and the club are finding out that being part time and community owned is not helping attract Conference Premier players as they cant afford to pay wages that Luton/Forest Green etc can.

Yet, however, the bookies have Chester at 14/1 best price to win the league - Barnet are 16/1 best price!

[aaron1867]

There are quite a few I like, but for the reasons already mentioned you have to like Wigan at 12's to be promoted.

Although my personal favourite at a half decent price is Bournemouth to be relegated @ 12's.

They have got promoted from a very poor League One last season & although Eddie Howe has done a good job there it is questionable whether or not he will do as well in the Championship where he previously failed with Burnley. The FFP does not help them either, especially being a small club, so how the market prices them up at 12's to be relegated is beyond me, perhaps the bookies are expecting them to significantly improve, but I can't see how they can do that much with the FFP n play these days.

Their current squad is not going to keep them up, improvements won't either, they need significant improvement and whether as a club they can do that is questionable, I am all over 12's.

I was going to post it in TfT, but doesn't seem ideal at the moment.

[TightEnd]

I was going to post it in TfT, but doesn't seem ideal at the moment.

why?


Do Bournemouth spend way beyond their means, such that FFP is a problem?

We know  some of the larger clubs in the division do, but as long as Bournemouth spend within their turnover, they are ok with FFP aren't they?

[Acidmouse]

Bournemouth are the same price as Leeds to go up....16/1.

Funny how people see this league.

[aaron1867]

The 12's is suggesting that Bournemouth will be comfortable mid table, they need significant investment & I can't see how they would me able to spend £xm+ with the FFP around.

League One was incredibly poor last season

[TightEnd]

Bournemouth are the same price as Leeds to go up....16/1.

Funny how people see this league.

does look odd

McDermott should have Leeds top six this season?

[TightEnd]

The 12's is suggesting that Bournemouth will be comfortable mid table, they need significant investment & I can't see how they would me able to spend £xm+ with the FFP around.

League One was incredibly poor last season

Agree about League One, from what I saw

Off to check Bournemouth ownership/funding etc. lol sigh.

[Acidmouse]

Bournemouth are the same price as Leeds to go up....16/1.

Funny how people see this league.

does look odd

McDermott should have Leeds top six this season?

Zero funds it seems. I would take mid table.