Long term 2013-14 football market bets: Your tips please

[FUN4FRASER]

There are quite a few I like, but for the reasons already mentioned you have to like Wigan at 12's to be promoted.

Although my personal favourite at a half decent price is Bournemouth to be relegated @ 12's.

They have got promoted from a very poor League One last season & although Eddie Howe has done a good job there it is questionable whether or not he will do as well in the Championship where he previously failed with Burnley. The FFP does not help them either, especially being a small club, so how the market prices them up at 12's to be relegated is beyond me, perhaps the bookies are expecting them to significantly improve, but I can't see how they can do that much with the FFP n play these days.

Their current squad is not going to keep them up, improvements won't either, they need significant improvement and whether as a club they can do that is questionable, I am all over 12's.

I was going to post it in TfT, but doesn't seem ideal at the moment.

Think you are confusing promotion and outright odds Aaron...Wigan 12s best to win

I like Reading @10s EW  or 7-2 to be promoted 

Good Manager, well run club, retained most of their premier squad from last year (Robson Kanu Great Player)   Russian owners with some money plus premier league parachute payment

As much as I appreciate how difficult the championship is Im pretty sure they will be close come next year

[aaron1867]

Yeah Fraser, I meant to win outright!

Both could be said for Reading and Wigan with regards to well run club to be fair, prob looking at Wigan personally because price is bigger

[FUN4FRASER]

Yeah Fraser, I meant to win outright!

Both could be said for Reading and Wigan with regards to well run club to be fair, prob looking at Wigan personally because price is bigger

True..but feel some of Wigans squad will get snapped up by the big boys , no doubt Martinez at Everton will be in for a few especially Mcmanaman

[DungBeetle]

Wigan will be hurt massively by trying to compete in Europa League in my opinion.  You just can't blend that with a 46 game league campaign.  They might make playoffs, but can't see them winning the league.

[DungBeetle]

Photos are starting to be leaked from Watford's Italian training camp although the only official announcement is that Acuna has signed, as well as some whizz kid from Reading who I presume is not ready for 1st team yet.

Abdi is in the photos, as it Casetti and Pudil so I assume it is safe to assume they are playing for us next year.  Haven't glimpsed anything of Vydra yet, or Ekstrand or Battochio.

[anthonyl]

Completely disagree about Bournemouth.

Got a very good squad. Took steve cook from us who is fking awesome.

Very wealthy backer too, and fpp has no punishment for this season.

[aaron1867]

Completely disagree about Bournemouth.

Got a very good squad. Took steve cook from us who is fking awesome.

Very wealthy backer too, and fpp has no punishment for this season.

They haven't got a very good squad.

Their current team as it stands is not going to stay up.

[FUN4FRASER]

Photos are starting to be leaked from Watford's Italian training camp although the only official announcement is that Acuna has signed, as well as some whizz kid from Reading who I presume is not ready for 1st team yet.

Abdi is in the photos, as it Casetti and Pudil so I assume it is safe to assume they are playing for us next year.  Haven't glimpsed anything of Vydra yet, or Ekstrand or Battochio.

Although Reading are my first choice & tick all the boxes I quite like Watford too

Dung am I right in thinking the FA were going to shut Watfords  " Italian transfer loophole" down ?  If so when does this take affect ?  Plus what does the squad look like in your opinion for next year ?

5 -1 to be promoted looks fair

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/championship/promotion


Cheers

[Nico29]

I backed Sunderland to be relegated at 6-1, 11-2 best now but i'd have taken 4's.

Di Canio really does seem like he is trying to rip everything up and start afresh, gl with that mate, especially with all the free transfers.

Sold one of the best keepers in the league, their best defender last year was a loan and they just have a general feeling of a club in a mess.

6's seemed juicy.

[anthonyl]

Completely disagree about Bournemouth.

Got a very good squad. Took steve cook from us who is fking awesome.

Very wealthy backer too, and fpp has no punishment for this season.

They haven't got a very good squad.

Their current team as it stands is not going to stay up.

Im sure you are trolling.

Far better team than sheff wed anyway.

[gherkin]

As a Walsall fan I advise you don't bet on them to go up or down this season!! 

They've lost a couple of the key players from last season but kept their best player (and captain) so the spine of the team should stay reasonably solid.  Presuming they sort a decent permanent keeper, a replacement striker and a few other reasonable players before the season starts, then a mid-lower finish looks likely. 

Great manager and good team spirit but probably the smallest budget in the entire division - 16/1 for promotion doesn't represent any value at all and whilst 4/1 for relegation is better than I was expecting, I would want 5/1 or better before considering taking it

[anthonyl]

Simeon Jackson might be going to Bournemouth as per their forum, would be a incred signing.

[DungBeetle]

Hi Fraser - Udinese link is not shut down, just means we can't loan more than 4 players from them.  The players were only on loan in any case last year because the takeover was so late in the summer that there wasn't time to do anything else so it has very little impact.

So far this summer we have secured a fair number of the guys we had last year on perms (although it's not offical yet).  Not Vydra yet though, but I am told Abdi, Pudil, Casetti and Anya are very likely, and possibly Battochio and Ekstrand as well.

We have also added so far:

Acuna (Paraguayan striker with good scoring record in L2 in Spain)
Fabbrini (Support striker capped by Italy)
Angella (Italian beast of a centre back)
Faraoni (Italian U21 wing back who started for Inter's first team 14 times in 2012)

There are more to come.  I'm confident that by the start of the season Watford and Reading will have the strongest squads.  We still need a Keeper and a replacement for Chalobah.

[DungBeetle]

Surprised the 14-1 is still there for Watford to win league, given that news is starting to be finalised

http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sport/watfordfc/watfordfcnews/10519533.Udinese_trio_to_move_to_Watford__says_Pozzo/?ref=rss

[Doobs]

Surprised the 14-1 is still there for Watford to win league, given that news is starting to be finalised

http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/sport/watfordfc/watfordfcnews/10519533.Udinese_trio_to_move_to_Watford__says_Pozzo/?ref=rss

That 5/1 to get promoted with BetVictor has got to be better value though?