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« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2013, 09:23:33 AM »

Melissa will be the one with her arms folded.

Haha, I'm going to stop doing this now  Roll Eyes

Any male that post on blonde , Melissa will try to chat them up .

Pretty sure theres worse things in life haha

Oh be quiet Frankie! Just ignore him, this isn't true Smiley

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« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2013, 10:03:06 AM »

Melissa will be the one with her arms folded.

Haha, I'm going to stop doing this now  Roll Eyes

Any male that post on blonde , Melissa will try to chat them up .

Pretty sure theres worse things in life haha

Oh be quiet Frankie! Just ignore him, this isn't true Folded Arms


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« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2013, 02:50:45 PM »

Polerization,

Fellow diarist here. I have a few questions.

1. Why did you choose to spell your screen name like you did?

2. How many hours lifetime do you think you've spent playing cash game poker?

3. What's your default Nando's order?

4. When's your first shift at DTD? Wink
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« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2013, 03:02:41 PM »

Good luck sir, pretty risky but i hope you do well

How old are you?

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« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2013, 03:21:23 PM »

Hello  Smiley Welcome to Blonde.

We will most probably bump heads at DTD when you move here.
Looking forward to this haha

Whilst it is easy to make money at 50/1, I agree with PJ that it is hard to make a decent living out of it.
This i had not really thought off. my plan was to put most of my volume in online anyway, what site do you play on?

. Online is always going to be better and it true that you learn a lot faster online too (online players are better) Wink
Obv true Wink
Btw what sort of role would you suggest for playing the 1/1 games and the plan is to build a role while payimg living expenses so i can hopefully move into the 1/2 and 2/5(eventually) games and become a reg myself.


I play on stars, 6-max games mostly.

For 1/1, if it was your only income then a minimum of £5k I would say. The max buy in is £250 so I usually go a minimum of 20 buy ins for full ring. It really depends what you are comfortable with though. The 1/1 games can be soft, so if you felt comfortable and confident taking  a shot at it with less than 20 buy ins, then I would encourage that (obviously as long as you don't put yourself at risk of going broke). If you want to move up pretty quick then I suggest you be quite aggressive with your bankroll.
Hello  Smiley Welcome to Blonde.

We will most probably bump heads at DTD when you move here.
Looking forward to this haha

Whilst it is easy to make money at 50/1, I agree with PJ that it is hard to make a decent living out of it.
This i had not really thought off. my plan was to put most of my volume in online anyway, what site do you play on?

. Online is always going to be better and it true that you learn a lot faster online too (online players are better) Wink
Obv true Wink
Btw what sort of role would you suggest for playing the 1/1 games and the plan is to build a role while payimg living expenses so i can hopefully move into the 1/2 and 2/5(eventually) games and become a reg myself.


I play on stars, 6-max games mostly.

For 1/1, if it was your only income then a minimum of £5k I would say. The max buy in is £250 so I usually go a minimum of 20 buy ins for full ring. It really depends what you are comfortable with though. The 1/1 games can be soft, so if you felt comfortable and confident taking  a shot at it with less than 20 buy ins, then I would encourage that (obviously as long as you don't put yourself at risk of going broke). If you want to move up pretty quick then I suggest you be quite aggressive with your bankroll.
Hello  Smiley Welcome to Blonde.

We will most probably bump heads at DTD when you move here.
Looking forward to this haha

Whilst it is easy to make money at 50/1, I agree with PJ that it is hard to make a decent living out of it.
This i had not really thought off. my plan was to put most of my volume in online anyway, what site do you play on?

. Online is always going to be better and it true that you learn a lot faster online too (online players are better) Wink
Obv true Wink
Btw what sort of role would you suggest for playing the 1/1 games and the plan is to build a role while payimg living expenses so i can hopefully move into the 1/2 and 2/5(eventually) games and become a reg myself.


I play on stars, 6-max games mostly.

For 1/1, if it was your only income then a minimum of £5k I would say. The max buy in is £250 so I usually go a minimum of 20 buy ins for full ring. It really depends what you are comfortable with though. The 1/1 games can be soft, so if you felt comfortable and confident taking  a shot at it with less than 20 buy ins, then I would encourage that (obviously as long as you don't put yourself at risk of going broke). If you want to move up pretty quick then I suggest you be quite aggressive with your bankroll.

I have to disagree with Melissa on this one, while 20 buyins for full ring cash games is pretty standard bankroll management online, it works of the premise that you are just building a bankroll and not entirely living off it too.

Having a 20 buyin downswing is pretty standard, so using a 20BI roll means you go broke unnecessarily. Bearing in mind you also have to pay rent and buy food with the money you make from poker, say you are in a downswing and are making a negative income for several months, that will quickly eat into the bankroll reducing the number of BIs you have for the leel you are playing and drastically increasing your risk of ruin.

Personally if I was to play for a living I would want at least 20k to be happy that I could hit a downswing that lasts for months and still have money to pay for the life essentials such as food and rent. But it all depends on what you monthly expenditure is on average and what your win rate is at the tables. Knowing your standard deviation would help as well as you cpuld work out your exact risk of ruin based on your win rate and current bankroll. But that may be delving too far into maths for some people, but I'm a maths nerd so I love it haha
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« Reply #20 on: July 06, 2013, 03:50:59 PM »

Polerization,

Fellow diarist here. I have a few questions.

1. Why did you choose to spell your screen name like you did?
My online screen name and just the way i always spelt it haha

2. How many hours lifetime do you think you've spent playing cash game poker?
A lot (mainly home games) and id say about 100k hands online maybe a little more

3. What's your default Nando's order?
Dont go that often but usually like medium half a chicken guess thats quite standard haha


4. When's your first shift at DTD? Wink
And im on holiday at then end of this month, which is going to cripple my role i guess but it will be at the end of september maybe the middle.
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« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2013, 03:51:54 PM »

Hi pole, welcome to blonde.  Although I am currently pessimistic about this idea (with the information currently available), I most sincerely hope that I'm wrong about it and you go on to do well.  I also have a few questions:

Do you play online? (Games, stakes, volume, results etc.)
Have you had any coaching / done any studying?
Do you feel like you have any weaknesses in your game?
Strengths in your game?
Have you ever tried to make a cup-a-soup in a bowl?

Looking forward to this diary and think it has a lot of potential to be an interesting read. GLGL.
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« Reply #22 on: July 06, 2013, 03:55:28 PM »

Haha Adrian, you quoted me 3 times

It's a fair point, I personally don't take any money out of my bankroll that would make me drop below 20 buy ins ever but I don't rely soley on poker as an income. A lot depends on your playing style too. So maybe having more than 20 is better for you, but certainly no less than that amount.

I'm presuming you already have about 6 months of expenses set aside incase of a bad downswing?

I wont have a huge role to start with and i dont think iver ever seen 20k in one go i can get the money to pay for rent and stuff which is so minimal and i can earn online in like a few days, i play on bwin (really really soft games) mainly and tornos on stars and have built up like a 1k role on there again not a lot but theres still time before i move Wink
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« Reply #23 on: July 06, 2013, 04:01:55 PM »

Hi pole, welcome to blonde.  Although I am currently pessimistic about this idea (with the information currently available), I most sincerely hope that I'm wrong about it and you go on to do well.  I also have a few questions:

Do you play online? (Games, stakes, volume, results etc.)
Have you had any coaching / done any studying?
Do you feel like you have any weaknesses in your game?
Strengths in your game?
Have you ever tried to make a cup-a-soup in a bowl?

Looking forward to this diary and think it has a lot of potential to be an interesting read. GLGL.

1) yes i do play online only micro/low stakes atm just building a role finding it really easy on bwin to move through the stakes fast and my roles growing fast
2) I was looking for one tbh when i move to nottigham thougt it better to ask around maybe post on here iver read super system1, caros book of tells, ace on the river and im currently reading the raisers edge and constantly think about my game and talk hands through with people.
3) not really sure about this maybe the fact i am an aggressive player but i use a great deal of judgement so not just a maniac haha
4) no i have not is it good? Lol
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« Reply #24 on: July 06, 2013, 04:08:56 PM »

Thought i'd write about something that really frustrates me and i guess a lot of other players the bad stigma attached to poker, i was at work last night and we got onto the topic of my summer plans poker came up, 'your an idiot' 'its a game of luck' 'its a fools game' so yeah 2 of these people i couldn't even be bothered to talk to but there is one intelligent person who i thought he might actually listen i tried to explain the concept of varience to him and after it all he just came back with the same response that its 'luck'. This whole attitude just makes me so tilted it's unreal but i'm starting to understand it's a pretty standard view of poker, the only trouble is people view it as a results based game if i got in and lose even like £300 they will be like told you i was right, e.g i made about £250 playing the 10/25 games on bwin not last night the night before and i told them about this there response was just how much did you lose though? Any views?
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« Reply #25 on: July 06, 2013, 04:09:50 PM »

I would certainly recommend trying to get involved in some kind of online staking deal that comes with coaching.  That was how I started out and within 2 or 3 months I was 10 times the player I thought I was before I started (and now 2 years later I still don't rate myself as anywhere near the best!)  

As for cup-a-soup in a bowl, don't do it, it's terrible!
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« Reply #26 on: July 06, 2013, 04:12:52 PM »

As for what people think about the game, you will never change their minds.  All you can do is prove them wrong!  No point getting mad about it, haterz gon hate and that....
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« Reply #27 on: July 06, 2013, 04:17:20 PM »

I would certainly recommend trying to get involved in some kind of online staking deal that comes with coaching.  That was how I started out and within 2 or 3 months I was 10 times the player I thought I was before I started (and now 2 years later I still don't rate myself as anywhere near the best!)  

As for cup-a-soup in a bowl, don't do it, it's terrible!

I have a staking deal sorted for live tornos, but dont know any people who coach really so playing of my own dime really.

And this is epic, think i will have to just to see what happens ahhahaha
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« Reply #28 on: July 06, 2013, 04:24:53 PM »

glgl with this. Certainly right to give it a go as if it does not work you have plenty of time to do something else.

Hope this thread keeps up it will be interesting to watch the ride.
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« Reply #29 on: July 06, 2013, 04:26:59 PM »

I almost forgot this one wanted to share my first time at the DTD cash games tables i sat down didn't know who anyone was and must have just looked like i scared little kid that's what i felt like anyway, i didn't realise but on my table were some really good players who play high limit games e.g ruud on here and another guy who was talking to him about high stakes PLO games, anyway i remember this hand and thought it was funny how scared i was AK in the sb and ruud had opened MP it got 2 callers round to me and i 3bet to £14 i think but still felt like a boss haha till it went call then i wanted to hide Sad flop came AJ8 i was happy but when i bet and was raised by the initial raiser i was so scared i called not knowing what i was doing turn bricks and i check willing to call all in but not knowing why, he checks behind which gives me the green light to shove my pot sized stack on the river the river bricks but i freeze up and we check it down for these 2 players to laugh and say why did you not jam the river. Thought this was a hilarious story and made me realise how far ive came i did win that day about £220 which at the time was huge and still would be a guess.
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