hypothetical wsop spot

[Ironside]

Lol, the guy has shoved blind! I don't care what tournament it is or how many hands in you are, I am never ever folding a hand as strong as KK.

I'd call TT+ AK & AQs. Even that is maybe on the tight side.

you got a full table to act behind you, you really want to be calling aq and tt? I would call qq+ maybe aks

[MANTIS01]

I would fold everything except AA and don't give one fuck what the maths says.

Let's say you buy a ticket to the final British Lions test and fly to Australia to watch the game. Somebody outside the ground offers you £5k for it? I don't care how much money I'm theoretically losing I'm still doing the conga through the turnstiles.

How about if they offer you £5k + a 75% chance you'll get to keep your ticket, and with better seats?

Would snap because it's £5k locked-up + free spin. Can't really lose.

How much do we have locked-up in the other scenario? Nothing that's what.

[George2Loose]

Because u can pick up chips without taking high variance lines

[rfgqqabc]

How has this got to 5 pages? Really? QQ+ seems like a nice area although if people are folding KK behind surely we  can go a bit wider. Obviously for some people the experience of the main is greater than the value of doubling but if this is true to such a degree we are folding KK then why register, got to play at some point and your hardly enjoying the experience if you sit there scurrred.  


Melissa why are we taking AQs over 99? I know we have the blocker but we are 5.8% worse off purely vs a random hand.

[MANTIS01]

Not gambling 30,000 at 25/50 with a non nut hand pre flop on the first deal of the wsop ME doesn't mean you're scared. And it doesn't mean you'll make that kinda decision throughout the whole comp.

It just means you want to take your coat off and play some poker before you have to stand up and wander off again.

[Ironside]

First hand of a slow structure I wouldn't likely 3 bet with tt and aq from such an ep never mind call a blind shove with 8 people still waiting to act

[CHIPPYMAN]

Not gambling 30,000 at 25/50 with a non nut hand pre flop on the first deal of the wsop ME doesn't mean you're scared. And it doesn't mean you'll make that kinda decision throughout the whole comp.

It just means you want to take your coat off and play some poker before you have to stand up and wander off again.

I don't know how else to describe it but scared.

There is no logical or mathematical reason to not get KK in

If you folded KK, wouldn't that just be your emotions playing for you? Cause you wouldn't actually be making an optimal decision.

Really with KK aswell at UTG+2 and whole  table still to act ? Can't be right here . 30k starting stack with bb at 50/100 n two hours clock ! U haven't put any chips in there . Just fold n let the idiot take the 150 sb and bb .

[theprawnidentity]

Lol, the guy has shoved blind! I don't care what tournament it is or how many hands in you are, I am never ever folding a hand as strong as KK.

I'd call TT+ AK & AQs. Even that is maybe on the tight side.

you got a full table to act behind you, you really want to be calling aq and tt? I would call qq+ maybe aks

This is completely illogical.  UTG is shoving ATC, why would we call AKs and NOT 99/TT/JJ?  Even 88 plays better than AKs.

http://www.pokericmcalculator.com/icmizer/#ODlm

[MANTIS01]

Not gambling 30,000 at 25/50 with a non nut hand pre flop on the first deal of the wsop ME doesn't mean you're scared. And it doesn't mean you'll make that kinda decision throughout the whole comp.

It just means you want to take your coat off and play some poker before you have to stand up and wander off again.

I don't know how else to describe it but scared.

There is no logical or mathematical reason to not get KK in

If you folded KK, wouldn't that just be your emotions playing for you? Cause you wouldn't actually be making an optimal decision.

The logical reason is to get some sort of perceived value for money. You are still paying for a good time afterall. It's like if I offered you a half price pair of Jimmy Choos. You don't know what size they are so don't know if they will fit. Wouldn't you want to try them on and walk around in them a bit first to see how they feel? I know I would, cos I really struggle walking in heels.

[MANTIS01]

Sorry, should have specified in my hypothetical scenario you can't re-sell. But they look about right and there's a 75% chance they will fit. If they do fit scoopio if they don't fit huge disappointment.

A smaller comp would be like offering you a pair of cheap flip flops at half price, much easier to shrug off.

You are obv correct tho xx

[Ironside]

Lol, the guy has shoved blind! I don't care what tournament it is or how many hands in you are, I am never ever folding a hand as strong as KK.

I'd call TT+ AK & AQs. Even that is maybe on the tight side.

you got a full table to act behind you, you really want to be calling aq and tt? I would call qq+ maybe aks

This is completely illogical.  UTG is shoving ATC, why would we call AKs and NOT 99/TT/JJ?  Even 88 plays better than AKs.

http://www.pokericmcalculator.com/icmizer/#ODlm

because we are not closing the action

[theprawnidentity]

Lol, the guy has shoved blind! I don't care what tournament it is or how many hands in you are, I am never ever folding a hand as strong as KK.

I'd call TT+ AK & AQs. Even that is maybe on the tight side.

you got a full table to act behind you, you really want to be calling aq and tt? I would call qq+ maybe aks

This is completely illogical.  UTG is shoving ATC, why would we call AKs and NOT 99/TT/JJ?  Even 88 plays better than AKs.

http://www.pokericmcalculator.com/icmizer/#ODlm

because we are not closing the action

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[Ironside]

Seriously if we call tt and people call behind us we are dead too the water with ak we have blockers against someone waking with aa kk

[Tommy Bingham]

[Tommy Bingham]

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