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« Reply #75 on: July 09, 2013, 03:24:15 PM »

Seriously if we call tt and people call behind us we are dead too the water with ak we have blockers against someone waking with aa kk

We're far more concerned with how our hand plays vs the blind shover seen as were going to be playing vs him 100% of the time.  The chance of us getting overcalled by AA/KK is tiny.  

Ive done the maths.  88 nets 9888 chips profit, AKs nets 9600 chips profit. TT nets 13174 and JJ 14541.
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« Reply #76 on: July 09, 2013, 03:24:28 PM »

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« Reply #77 on: July 09, 2013, 03:26:09 PM »

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« Reply #78 on: July 09, 2013, 03:27:25 PM »

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« Reply #79 on: July 09, 2013, 03:28:06 PM »

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« Reply #80 on: July 09, 2013, 03:31:49 PM »

Seriously if we call tt and people call behind us we are dead too the water with ak we have blockers against someone waking with aa kk

We're far more concerned with how our hand plays vs the blind shover seen as were going to be playing vs him 100% of the time.  The chance of us getting overcalled by AA/KK is tiny.  

Ive done the maths.  88 nets 9888 chips profit, AKs nets 9600 chips profit. TT nets 13174 and JJ 14541.

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« Reply #81 on: July 09, 2013, 03:33:36 PM »

people deffo are underestimating how much a good player can chip up in the main event with non showdown when they get the right table.
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« Reply #82 on: July 09, 2013, 03:40:28 PM »

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« Reply #83 on: July 09, 2013, 03:41:39 PM »

Seriously if we call tt and people call behind us we are dead too the water with ak we have blockers against someone waking with aa kk

We're far more concerned with how our hand plays vs the blind shover seen as were going to be playing vs him 100% of the time.  The chance of us getting overcalled by AA/KK is tiny.  

Ive done the maths.  88 nets 9888 chips profit, AKs nets 9600 chips profit. TT nets 13174 and JJ 14541.

GTFO Bingham!!!!!

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« Reply #84 on: July 09, 2013, 03:57:39 PM »

Anyone wanna go through every Mantis post and create an ultimate list of every situation he has taken and compared it to a completely ridiculous hypothetical situation?  Thread has comedy gold written all over it
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« Reply #86 on: July 09, 2013, 04:00:14 PM »

people deffo are underestimating how much a good player can chip up in the main event with non showdown when they get the right table.

People definitely making bad assumptions about calling ranges behind too. Just because it is stupid to call behind with AK doesn't mean they don't.  I was sat with 400 BBs at a GUKPT last year, player sat down first hand he played was all in pre with AK vs QQ.  They were both aware the other had looked at their hands too.  

There was one on Pokernews yesterday where Mad Turk called 2 or 3 all ins with JJ (he had them covered) then someone behind with a monster stack called behind him with 43 suited.

I got a gazillion big blinds in with KK vs J6 off 2nd level of the Rio Deepstack less than a fortnight ago.  

It just isn't safe to assume only AA calls behind.

I think AK is bad, KK definitely good, we could debate the other pairs based on the size of our insane edge.  
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« Reply #87 on: July 09, 2013, 04:05:58 PM »

I guess we should also take into account our history with players behind as well. Have any of the players seen us make this kind of play before?
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« Reply #88 on: July 09, 2013, 04:16:31 PM »

I guess we should also take into account our history with players behind as well. Have any of the players seen us make this kind of play before?



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« Reply #89 on: July 09, 2013, 04:18:25 PM »

More info needed imo

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