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Lawro74
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« on: July 20, 2013, 09:31:08 PM »

I'm on the button with approx 16bb...blinds 600/1200 200 ante

Villain UTG +1 raises 2600 - abc player
Villain UTG +2 cold calls - loose weak

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both players have roughly average chips = which is approx 25/30bb

what do you think the default play should be?
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« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2013, 09:43:09 PM »

Fold
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« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2013, 09:53:42 PM »

I would fold readless which we appear to be and I can't imagine many scenarios where id shove after a flat, but before it seems more than possible. Include some reads.
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« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2013, 09:59:53 PM »

reads? lotsss of dead money
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« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2013, 10:01:49 PM »

How are people giving replies without knowing what average is ?
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« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2013, 10:26:19 PM »

Assuming 8 handed then jamming here can rarely be bad with 8.6k in the middle and 19k back

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« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2013, 11:11:54 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2013, 11:33:53 AM »

Very happy to jam here
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« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2013, 11:52:33 AM »

Happily folding here without some decent reads. Move along, plenty more opportunities in the next few orbits.

Any more on utg+2?? A lot of players can't resist flatting with speculative hands, suited connectors, all pairs etc. even when their stack size dictates they shouldn't.

How about abc man? abc players don't generally open in EP without a hand good enough to call off a 16bb shove.

What are they likely to think of you? Is there any chance they'll fold A10 or 99 vs your shove thinking they're behind? He's not going to be a lot lighter than this.
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« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2013, 12:10:43 PM »

The pr-flop aggressor actually had   and I think he would have folded if I jammed....the loose weak player has a massive calling range (yes he was that bad)
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« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2013, 01:50:54 AM »

Lots of things dependant IMO.  Level of buy in?, how many left?, what's average?, where r u in relation to runners left?, how does your table perceive u in recent hands gone by?

I can't see how anyone can give an honest answer with the info you have been given, we might Aswell just all play ABC poker if this is the case.
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