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Pinchop73
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« on: July 23, 2013, 01:05:18 PM »

Original raiser in this hand has been battling with the BB all comp long, really attacking each other. Is a decent winner but imo hasn't been playing particularly well vs the BB, who shows up as a very low volume HS break even player, has been super active opening everything from everywhere.

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PokerStars Hand #101653243275: Tournament #814010506, $100+$9 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (80/160) - 2013/07/20 13:31:54 ET
Table '814010506 5' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: bobicamica (7156 in chips)
Seat 2: LlKE A G6 (4780 in chips)
Seat 3: Eln$nho (16284 in chips)
Seat 4: shinbunshi (3275 in chips)
Seat 5: Waldur1983 (8890 in chips)
Seat 6: j.thaddeus (8032 in chips)
Seat 7: Run dat Game (5275 in chips)
Seat 8: Ultraballs18 (12519 in chips)
Seat 9: haysie7 (12360 in chips)
bobicamica: posts the ante 15
LlKE A G6: posts the ante 15
Eln$nho: posts the ante 15
shinbunshi: posts the ante 15
Waldur1983: posts the ante 15
j.thaddeus: posts the ante 15
Run dat Game: posts the ante 15
Ultraballs18: posts the ante 15
haysie7: posts the ante 15
Ultraballs18: posts small blind 80
haysie7: posts big blind 160
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ultraballs18 [ ]
bobicamica: folds
LlKE A G6: folds
Eln$nho: raises 160 to 320
shinbunshi: folds
Waldur1983: folds
j.thaddeus: folds
Run dat Game: folds
Ultraballs18: raises 380 to 700
haysie7: calls 540
Eln$nho: calls 380
*** FLOP *** [ two spades]
Ultraballs18: bets 915
haysie7: calls 915
Eln$nho: calls 915
*** TURN *** [ two spades] []
Ultraballs18: checks
haysie7: bets 2400
Eln$nho: calls 2400
Ultraballs18: raises 8489 to 10889 and is all-in
haysie7: folds
Eln$nho: calls 8489
*** RIVER *** [ two spades ] []
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Ultraballs18: shows [ ] (a straight, Three to Seven)
Eln$nho: shows [ ] (three of a kind, Fives)
Ultraballs18 collected 29158 from pot
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« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2013, 01:37:38 PM »

flat pre imo. or fold
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« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2013, 01:41:21 PM »

You don't always have to take an orthadox line pre pleno.

Overall I really hate it (sorry). Eln$ has flatted pre, flatted the flop and then flatted the turn. His range isn't exactly weak is it. He should be folding 77-JJ hands here if he has any sense given the action. He just looks so strong to me!
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« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2013, 01:43:43 PM »

You don't always have to take an orthadox line pre pleno.

Overall I really hate it (sorry). Eln$ has flatted pre, flatted the flop and then flatted the turn. His range isn't exactly weak is it. He should be folding 77-JJ hands here if he has any sense given the action. He just looks so strong to me!

huh? its not orthadox or unorthadox i just think its bad. we should try to avoid from making bad lines pre flop imo!  people just v hoody these days and not folding much
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« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2013, 01:45:56 PM »

You can prob 3bet with better hands like 97s I guess if someone opens a ton.
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« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2013, 01:48:15 PM »

Overall I really hate it (sorry).

Don't be silly Dan! I'm actively looking for criticism!

But bare in mind that the BB can (and has) have complete air here on a steal, not much of 3b ranges can call.
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« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2013, 03:17:46 PM »

fold pre imo
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« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2013, 06:12:29 PM »

fold pre imo

80bb deep with antes otb vs a min open, really?
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« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2013, 06:13:24 PM »

were in sb
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« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2013, 06:37:12 PM »

ye i would call anywhere but the sb especially in a 100r with better hand readers
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« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2013, 07:31:24 PM »

Just river a 3 and you'll be fine
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« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2013, 11:23:05 PM »

If you are a massive nit and you don't really have a great feel for the game then peeling 6's from the sb vs a good player probably isn't going to show a profit. I find it impossible to think that folding 6's myself here is a good idea and I don't consider myself a great player by any means.

I actually only just realised we are in the sb though, it makes the 3bet pretty bad imo. People don't like to fold and 6's don't play well post flop OOP.

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« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2013, 11:49:54 PM »

I feel like with the antes and our opponents, whilst good, have clearly shown they aren't afraid to get chips in. There probably is a line though, I imagine with 22 we'd struggle, at least 66  s can overset someone. I've never played these stakes though.
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« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2013, 01:43:20 AM »

I'm not folding pre, think u have a great stack and the other two are deep enough to get the lot if u flop it, but that's just it really. > peel pre, check call flop, check decide turn, if not so big may peel again but I wouldn't be confident and think its v. Fishy with the 3 hearts down now.

In honesty think u have butchered the hand, and took a real high variance line out of position in a very good structured tournament with a decent stack, where the key is to preserve and put pressure on the better players in a much better position than u were in above.
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« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2013, 10:29:07 AM »

If you are a massive nit

Tbf the 100r is never really the highest on the fav game lists of nits
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