Squeeze plan.

[cambridgealex]

300e 6max.

Good spot? Sizing? Line postflop once peeled in both spots?

***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** (Winamax)
Tourney Hand NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, August 04, 09:40:40 ET 2013
Table (50721229)010 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( 10155 ) - VPIP: 19, PFR: 13, 3B: 3, AF: 2.3, Hands: 283
Seat 2: Hero ( 45100 ) - VPIP: 23, PFR: 19, 3B: 8, AF: 2.8, Hands: 62722
Seat 3: Player3 ( 40287 ) - VPIP: 32, PFR: 19, 3B: 5, AF: 1.6, Hands: 331
Seat 4: Player4 ( 18028 ) - VPIP: 24, PFR: 18, 3B: 3, AF: 7.0, Hands: 174
Seat 5: Player5 ( 103486 ) - VPIP: 38, PFR: 27, 3B: 13, AF: 2.5, Hands: 189
Player1 posts ante of [75].
Hero posts ante of [75].
Player3 posts ante of [75].
Player4 posts ante of [75].
Player5 posts ante of [75].
Player1 posts small blind [400].
Hero posts big blind [800].
Dealt to Hero [   ]
** Dealing down cards **
Player3 raises [1864]
Player4 folds
Player5 calls [1864]
Player1 folds
Hero raises [4355]
Player3 calls [3291]
Player5 calls [3291]
** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]
Hero ?

[TL900]

I think your hands good enough to peel pre from the big tbh, are you opposed to this? as played sizing seems fine/good.

Postflop I don't really see how we can do anything but c/f just dont see how we can get to showdown let alone get there and have the best hand.

[jezza777]

I dont mind pumping it up pre. Board is too wet and pot is too big to do anything but c/f tho cant see you getting through two players and I doubt you have the best hand. Not that we need the best hand with the betting lead but v two its not a good spot to continue.

[theprawnidentity]

I think your hands good enough to peel pre from the big tbh, are you opposed to this?

Postflop I don't really see how we can do anything but c/f just dont see how we can get to showdown let alone get there and have the best hand.

This but I would go somewhere near 5k pre.

[TL900]

I think your hands good enough to peel pre from the big tbh, are you opposed to this?

Postflop I don't really see how we can do anything but c/f just dont see how we can get to showdown let alone get there and have the best hand.

This but I would go somewhere near 5k pre.

I think it is 5k? well i assumed it is, think thats the raise on top of our bb some hh's do it weird like that, but yea if not i think 5k is good size

[muckthenuts]

Agree it's a good spot/hand to put in a light 3bet. As long as my image was pretty good and they weren't peeling a really high amount it seems fine. Think the hand is too weak to peel pre and would prefer folding otherwise.

Flop c/f this sort of middling co-ordinated board will hit the calling ranges of 2 players way too hard and we can't withstand any heat.

 

[theprawnidentity]

Oh yeh if its added on then im like the man in the orthopaedic shoes.

[pleno1]

Dont like pre would just go ahead and not hve a wide 3ettibg range. Opener seems splashy ad we need more connect on his fold to 3bet stats so far to go Muchdeeper into this. Player 5 is almost definitely too loose to make this a profitable 3bet though. Call and it's probably not close. Folding may be better than squeezing.

I dot understand how much we have made it pre flop but assuming its 400/800 and 1850, 1850, my normal 3bet sizing here would be 5200ish but with this splashy peeler I'd go bigger, somewhere around 5800ish

As played flop is an extremely clear check fold IMO but happy to be told different.

[Pugwashed]

Dont like pre would just go ahead and not hve a wide 3ettibg range. Opener seems splashy ad we need more connect on his fold to 3bet stats so far to go Muchdeeper into this. Player 5 is almost definitely too loose to make this a profitable 3bet though. Call and it's probably not close. Folding may be better than squeezing.

I dot understand how much we have made it pre flop but assuming its 400/800 and 1850, 1850, my normal 3bet sizing here would be 5200ish but with this splashy peeler I'd go bigger, somewhere around 5800ish

As played flop is an extremely clear check fold IMO but happy to be told different.

This.

Getting such a good price I wouldn't 3bet v often here and when I do I'm probably not gonna use these kind of suited broadway hands that we can peel profitably. And sizing definitely seems too small, they're getting such a good price that they can just correctly peel almost everything, especially if we're 3betting pretty wide here. And I guess just I'm check/folding the flop, just hoping it checks through and we somehow find a way to get to showdown / improve if they let us see the turn

[action man]

Like 5500-6k more pre, as played c/f flop, heads up to flop I'd bet

[AlexMartin]

more pre, prolly some value with a flop bet (like 1/3rd) but dont know villains. think i prefer sqz pre just.

[pleno1]

more pre, prolly some value with a flop bet (like 1/3rd) but dont know villains. think i prefer sqz pre just.

Why? I think its very bad vs villains and French players in general.

They are not folding better hands, initiative is not important when they will call down with a high frequency and im sure the value is not from triple barrel bluffing in the bb vs utg and vs a v splashy peeler.

[action man]

I don't really see why we wanna make it this size. We re inflating the pot 3 way most of the time oop. If we make our sizing bigger at least we go heads up to the flop a lot of the time. Reasons for squeezing pre to this size?

[pleno1]

I agree if we squeeze we should go bigger but fully disagree with the merits of squeezing pre. I'd rather squeeze something like 96s than k9s where we can have equity on more boards and not have as much reverse impliees.

I wouldn't squeeze 96s either though.

[cambridgealex]

Think sizing should be bigger but I think there's merits to squeezing pre, esp with this hand as it's one of the worst hands I'd peel pre, and can flop Kxx and be in a good situation, rather than 96s where 9xx is way more vunerable, and our flush draws have reverse implied etc.

Squeeze loads on the french sites and works v well in general. Made mistake with sizing here as it doesn't get through enough. Big is beautiful.