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« on: August 25, 2013, 11:56:50 PM »

partz major, im 2/155, bubble just burst. i won 5 or 6 pots in row on bubble.

villain was only one who played back at all.

blinds behind been super tight but its bubble


villain opens at 750/1500 to 3k from ep and 65k stack
i have 110k otb

blinds have 13 and 12k

3bet or flat?
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« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2013, 11:58:37 PM »

we got jj
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« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2013, 11:58:44 PM »

what do you have?
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« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2013, 11:58:56 PM »

i flat
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« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2013, 12:45:58 AM »

What is ave stack size?

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« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2013, 12:58:59 AM »

I think 3bet because you cant bluff call. Suits your image well, people love to spew too. 7235 ish. Flat absolutely fine and wouldnt mind either I imagine i do both depending on mood
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« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2013, 01:24:58 AM »

What is ave stack size?



why
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« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2013, 01:32:10 AM »

I 3b slightly bigger than rfg around 7.5 to 8k small enough to open betting again if a blind shoves so it really depends on accurate chip counts
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« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2013, 03:08:51 AM »

Tight players (blinds) are usually more concerned about their relation to average stack.2/155 is pretty cool.

It's  gotta be a raise here as calling opens a whole can of pish which is not cool when you are 2/155.

You will either be flipping v a shorty with a decent hand or folding to a 4 bet.
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« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2013, 03:23:54 AM »

Tight players (blinds) are usually more concerned about their relation to average stack.2/155 is pretty cool.

It's  gotta be a raise here as calling opens a whole can of pish which is not cool when you are 2/155.

You will either be flipping v a shorty with a decent hand or folding to a 4 bet.
3b/fold is awful. why would we 3bet/fold the 4th best hand in poker? Its not like we are 2nd vs 1st in tournament positions here, we have double his stack.
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« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2013, 03:52:58 AM »

Tight players (blinds) are usually more concerned about their relation to average stack.2/155 is pretty cool.

It's  gotta be a raise here as calling opens a whole can of pish which is not cool when you are 2/155.

You will either be flipping v a shorty with a decent hand or folding to a 4 bet.
3b/fold is awful. why would we 3bet/fold the 4th best hand in poker? Its not like we are 2nd vs 1st in tournament positions here, we have double his stack.
I think it's just an uber sexy 3 bet fold so up yours aggro santos.  weeeeeeeeeee
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« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2013, 04:22:18 AM »

3 bet fold for sure
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« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2013, 06:48:42 AM »

I like 3b here I think. If villain is as described then I would expect him to 4b/f a decent % which is a pretty good result. The reason I like a 3b here is because we can def have a decent % of bluffs in this spot with hands that are a bit annoying to peel with like some Ax and K10o etc but are happy to call off against the shorties after 3betting.

Anyway with current image and dynamic I feel like villain might get stubborn whether it be with 4b/f or peeling wider. I guess the merits of flatting are that the shorties in the blinds may jam a slightly wider range than what they would if you'd have 3b but I still think they're gonna be fairly tight in this spot probably doesn't make that much of a difference.
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« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2013, 07:52:07 AM »

3bet fold?Huh?Huh? Are people mad?

The way you have described it is that villain is the only one playing back at you, you've been really active and you've got jacks. Deffo 3bet get it in.
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« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2013, 07:59:24 AM »

3bet fold?Huh?Huh? Are people mad?

The way you have described it is that villain is the only one playing back at you, you've been really active and you've got jacks. Deffo 3bet get it in.

Confirmed mad.
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Most of the bets placed so far seem more like hopeful punts rather than value spots
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