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C'mon Patrick, you can offer more than that surely? Or do players have to play (and probs lose tonnes) 50k hands before advice is valid? Or put another way, with good advice, could his next 47k of hands have better results?
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He's come here for help Patrick, please don't come across as utterly dismissive? (I realise your statement is true, lets at least explain to him why.) Point him towards the OR in your diary maybe for people who teach?
We're all here to help and learn.
This
I have no idea why Pleno has this attitude to a new poster?
Flash92, please stick around. Plenty of people will try to help if they can
Sorry.
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To me this seems like a culmination of months of posts like this. Patrick, ur obv a very high level thinker and alot of ur posts (the majority even) are both informative and intelligent, but i think ur posts have (maybe without realizing it) become blunt and somewhat rude recently. This may seem a little rich coming from someone like me who has definitely been guilty of arrogance and ive been hugely obnoxious and rude in the past also, but im sure your not meaning your posts to come across this way.
At least 10 people have mentioned to me recently that they have similar opinions; those being that the poker hand analysis on blonde is now dominated by what you think and also has become a really uncomfortable place for people to post through fear of a public bashing by you and a couple of others.
The case in question for example, a guy posts for the first time, is a small stakes player who is looking for some advice on moving forward. We were ALL in this situation, or similar once and you posting "graph is irrelevant, play 50k hands and post again" is swaying from constructive criticism and bordering on plain rude IMO.
More and more people are afraid to post on the PHA now which is totally wrong. So many posts now start with "im not qualified to post here really", or similar which i think isnt what a forum like blonde should be about. People from all ability levels posting is refreshing and good for the progression of the game.
Ive spoken to you off forum and i know your not a bad guy obv, so please don't take this in the wrong way, but i felt this post was honest.
FWIW, some of ur posts are very good and your def one of the best frequent posters on blonde, you've come along way from asking me for backing for $26 comps on ftp back in 2009 :-)
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Marc is spot on. Post was way ool imo.
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Graph is irrelevant. Go play another 50+k hands and then post again.
Gave the advice whilst waiting to pay at a till with an angry Hungarian shop keeper trying to hurry me up. Didn't have the time for hello, welcome and good bye unfortunately but told him his graph was irrelevant and the advice is to play 50k hands and then post again, where probably nobody who posted itt will help but ill actually spend a bunch of time and actually help.
Op, as you got 12 replies and none of them were actually helping you just a couple of the usual trolls I've now got time (on the toilet, my most useful time!) il explain why.
Posting profit line - generally this would mean nothing anyway, it's not going to be a way of signifying leaks or identifying anything wrong with your game
Non showdown and showdown lines - generally these don't matter anyway, I for example had a 300k spell when my red line was good and blue line bad and for e last 150k hands it changes. With the greatest respect a lot f see things are incredibly hard to comprehend and I'm still trying to work them out but reasons why they might change
Introducing a check call range as pfr, more times now in 2013 we may check call ather than cbetting top pair meaning that our green line will be better but our red line will be bad. We no longer Cbet and win on the flop.
Basically it don't matter at all if your red line or blue line is bad as lo as your green line is positive. What's probably most Important is tryingto get a specific win rate.
Negative winrate - this would mean that you are a losing player and thus a problem
1bb winrate - winning in the games but probably significant problems and leaks that need identifying
3bb winrate - very good, probably one of the better regs in your game
5bb winrate - one of if not the best reg in your games
7bbwinrate - playing too low and negatively effecting your potential hourly
Sample sizes - 3000 hands is literally less,than a day of grinding. You could be break even for 2000 hands, 1bb winner for 2300, at 2500 3bb, at 2700 5bb winner and 7bb by the end of he session. This doesn't mean you were good, bad, terrible and amazing in the session it's just plain variance. Sample sizes of perhaps 200k,hands would,be good but 50k plus I could perhaps spot some glaring leaks.
What is a graph? Posting a graph as I said earlier would mean nothing as it doesn't show anything specific. I'd suggest going to filter a report and doing it by position so we can see your positional stats. For example you could be opening 17% utg and I'd tell you it's an instant leak. You could be opening 35% when folded to on the button and I could tell you a leak. You can filter for as many stats as you like so I could probably find a lot of different things.
Many iofthe guys in the thread have vendettas for different reasons, I contribute a lot to the board generally because when I first came it was a great learning too for myself and I'm just trying to give back but after. When I first signed up I remember going to flushys posts and trying to reword them so I could sound like I was good at poker!
I think the fact that there has been 12 posts and not one person giving you good advice and wanting to,subscribe in the hope of an argument or apologies for me being rude but not actually wanting to help you either speaks wonders.
I don't have much time any,ore I'm trying to fit things into a very solid timescale and if I'm blunt then that is very sad I try to do as much quality and quantity on the pha board but if I'm putting dozens of people off from posting then that is incredibly sad to hear. Maybe Marc could post who those guys are or better pm me and I, apologize.
Ill make a retirement from pha for now and most likely come out of it in 3 days haha but op feel free to pm me and il give you 500 dollars worth of free coaching and help you out as much as I can.
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