England World Cup squad/11

[pleno1]

Oh shit sturridge. I really hope we don't play him left wing!!


Rodriguez though? Cyme seems a wasted space, jones is cover for dm, rb and cm. Milner covers,rb and smalling can play there.

I was actually looking forward to the world cup until I saw this thread. Gl getting out of groups.

Ox has to be in for me also.

Yeh pretty scary.

[77dave]

                                 Hart

Johnson        Terry               Jags           Cole


             Barkley       Carrick      Gerrard

Townsend                                     Rooney

                          Sturridge

Subs: Forster Baines Jones Cahill Walcott Defoe Carroll
res:  Foster  Smalling Walker Wilshire Milner Ox Lambert

[pleno1]

Henderson?

[77dave]

Henderson?

nope nor cleverly

[mondatoo]

I still strongly believe nobody over the 31/32 mark should go.

My Squad would be

Goalkeepers - 3

Hart
Forster
Butland

Defenders - 7

Baines
Gibbs
Johnson
Walker
Jones
Smalling
Cahill

Midfielders - 8

Wilshire (Capt)
Lallana
Barkley
Townsend
Chamberlain
Zaha
Sterling
Rodwell

Forwards - 4

Rooney
Sturridge
Welbeck
Walcott
Carroll (if fit and on form instead of Lallana)

From the squad my first 11 is

                                   Hart

Walker            Jones              Cahill               Baines



Walcott          Rodwell           Wilshire         Chamberlain

                                  Rooney

                         Sturridge

Rodwell's whole inclusion would be dependent on him agreeing to go out on loan in January otherwise he's out the squad, Barkley starts in his place.
             
                 

[TightEnd]

not a chance in the world Gerrard and Lampard won't go, probably as the last tournament for each

Gerrard is captain FFS. Has to be first name down on any 22 Ray!

[TightEnd]

Hart, Forster, Ruddy

Baines, A Cole, Cahill, Jagielka, P Jones, Smalling, Walker

Gerrard, Lampard, Wilshire, Carrick, Barkley, Townsend, Oxlade-Chamberlain

Rooney, Sturridge, Welbeck, Walcott, Lambert


Missing out

Foster, Butland

Gibbs (unlucky to be 3rd choice in our strongest position)

Johnson ( Jones covers rb)

Milner, Zaha (can't be picked if he doesn't play all season), Young

Defoe, Carroll

[mondatoo]

not a chance in the world Gerrard and Lampard won't go, probably as the last tournament for each

Gerrard is captain FFS. Has to be first name down on any 22 Ray!

No he doesn't, he was Captain to get us there, doesn't mean he has to go.

They've had there chance, they've done nothing in a major tournament, they don't deserve to go to another big tournament so they can have a lovely time enjoying the end of there career.

Anyone tell me the last time they thought England as a whole team played better than average in a game in a major tournament ? It almost certainly wasn't in the last two tournaments we played, in between the one we failed to even qualify for!

Everybody says we can't win in Brazil, I agree, so why take players who won't be able to play in Euro 2018, what's the point in that ?

As an aside, how can Gerrard be on anyone's squad sheet ahead of Rooney ?

[77dave]

What do people think about Terry being brought back?

Could he get a call? would he deserve it? would he accept it?

[celtic]

Not convinced Townsend will def go, or play a major part if he does. Needs to maintain the form he shown so far, and I'm not sure he will.

[TightEnd]

not a chance in the world Gerrard and Lampard won't go, probably as the last tournament for each

Gerrard is captain FFS. Has to be first name down on any 22 Ray!

No he doesn't, he was Captain to get us there, doesn't mean he has to go.

They've had there chance, they've done nothing in a major tournament, they don't deserve to go to another big tournament so they can have a lovely time enjoying the end of there career.

Anyone tell me the last time they thought England as a whole team played better than average in a game in a major tournament ? It almost certainly wasn't in the last two tournaments we played, in between the one we failed to even qualify for!

Everybody says we can't win in Brazil, I agree, so why take players who won't be able to play in Euro 2018, what's the point in that ?

As an aside, how can Gerrard be on anyone's squad sheet ahead of Rooney ?

Not a chance Hodgson or the FA will think like that though Ray

They'll pick a mixture of experience and youth, and at the end of the tournament the over 30s will retire from international football. same as at any World cup.

[celtic]

What tighty said basically. They should be there, just for their experience alone.

[TightEnd]

What do people think about Terry being brought back?

Could he get a call? would he deserve it? would he accept it?

Not convinced about any of our centre back options. Weak position for us.

That said I am not sure Terry, the Terry of 2013, improves the situation at all

Would call him if Cahill/Jagielka/Smalling etc were ruled out by injury


Out of left field, why is Dawson not mentioned in these teams? Leader of a very solid Spurs defence

[mondatoo]

Experience of putting in one dire performance after another and bottling every major tournament they play in and by that I don't just mean the inevitable losing on penalty's.

Hodgson won't do it because if it backfired and we didn't get out the group, the media, who have a ludicrous impact on how the national team is run, would have him out of a job.

The FA won't do it because they care more about money than success so want the "big" names there.

What about looking to the future, actually trying to build towards something ?

[Alverton]

Wrong tournament to build youngest to.  No chance of dropping the last of the ''golden generation" especially when they got us to Brazil.  Roy or whoever can drop them leading up to the 2016 Euros, so the younger generation can have a whole qualifying campaign working together.  Kinda ridiculous to think otherwise IMO.

Terry no thank you, doesn't add anything in a 2014 squad.  I don't understand why Dawson doesn't get a look in, he still wouldn't make final squad, but him or Smalling?

I think Tighty has it closet.  With Lambert, Walcott, on edges depending on fitness and form of others.