England World Cup squad/11

[tikay]

Losing Walcott is a Massive loss.

Yeah, definitely struggle to win it now.

Ha!

Excellent work, Marky.

[pleno1]

I'd go with



                        Hart


Johnson    Cahill   Jagielka     Baines

               Gerrard   Barkley 
Sterling                        Oxlade chamberlain

                   Rooney

                    Sturridge


I expect Henderson, wilshire, carrick and Lampars to be ahead of Barkley though.

I expect hodgson to go for Milner over one of the wingers and be more defensive.

Sturridge, Rooney, Gerard, Cahill, hart, baines, Johnson are locks I think.

[TightEnd]

I'd go with



                        Hart


Johnson    Cahill   Jagielka     Baines

               Gerrard   Barkley 
Sterling                        Oxlade chamberlain

                   Rooney

                    Sturridge


I expect Henderson, wilshire, carrick and Lampars to be ahead of Barkley though.

I expect hodgson to go for Milner over one of the wingers and be more defensive.

Sturridge, Rooney, Gerard, Cahill, hart, baines, Johnson are locks I think.

agree with your locks, agree with the back 5

think he would have wilshere first choice holding midfielder alongside gerrard if fit

think he'll play 4-2-3-1

the two biggest issues/uncertainties are the wide two in the 3 behind the striker. oxlade looks more of a player from the bench, i think.

I know it will be ridiculed but we'll see Milner picked in group games where a draw against Italy/Uruguay would do, to protect the right back and where sterling/oxlade would leave us too open

Same might apply to Henderson


Something like



hart

johnson cahill jagielka baines

    gerrard wilshere

milner henderson sturridge

         rooney

with sturridge and rooney possibly reversed and rooney central in behind/henderson wide

[pleno1]

Hmm that's interesting I always imagined he'd play Rooney behind Sturridge and Sturridge aways as the number 9.

Agree out 4231 just think Rooney will play as the central of the three.

Maybe he will play Henderson next to Gerard wilshire on the left. Sturridge playing on the left would be really bad, he is poor defensively and you need to be solid here, I don't think hodgson will trust him.

As you know I'd love Henderson to play but I just don't see it happening, he definitely deserves it too.

Without going on too much of a diversion 4 years later we will have

Hart
Butland
Jones
Shaw
Oxlade
Barkley
Wilshire
Ward prowse
Tom ince
Zaha
Walcott
Rooney
Sturridge
Sterling
Henderson

All in their prime, could be an exciting team.

[millidonk]

Am I the only person who thinks Rooney is terrible? Wouldn't even have him in my starting 11 these days.

[TightEnd]

Am I the only person who thinks Rooney is terrible? Wouldn't even have him in my starting 11 these days.

who would you play ahead of him?

[pleno1]

Good players don't turn bad overnight. He gets very poor service at man united from a really poor midfield. He likes playing with clever players, next to Sturridge they could have a good partnership.

[millidonk]

Am I the only person who thinks Rooney is terrible? Wouldn't even have him in my starting 11 these days.

who would you play ahead of him?

Lambert or Wellbeck if replacing him up top.

Any number of players if replacing him in behind or on wing.

Pleno, it's not overnight though, he's been poor for a while imo. Last few games for England he has looked avg at best.

[TightEnd]

Am I the only person who thinks Rooney is terrible? Wouldn't even have him in my starting 11 these days.

who would you play ahead of him?

Lambert or Wellbeck if replacing him up top.

Any number of players if replacing him in behind or on wing.

Pleno, it's not overnight though, he's been poor for a while imo. Last few games for England he has looked avg at best.

Big game player, no?

Lambert will get nothing out of world cup defenders in the heat/conditions. Mght not even go in the squad!

wellbeck is sturridge's back up

Rooney has to play, i would do so in behind sturridge linking the play from gerrard up.

he is the only realistic option we have

[millidonk]

Am I the only person who thinks Rooney is terrible? Wouldn't even have him in my starting 11 these days.

who would you play ahead of him?

Lambert or Wellbeck if replacing him up top.

Any number of players if replacing him in behind or on wing.

Pleno, it's not overnight though, he's been poor for a while imo. Last few games for England he has looked avg at best.

Big game player, no?

Lambert will get nothing out of world cup defenders in the heat/conditions. Mght not even go in the squad!

wellbeck is sturridge's back up

Rooney has to play, i would do so in behind sturridge linking the play from gerrard up.

he is the only realistic option we have

Lallana could fill that roll perfectly imo.

Although I agree that most people see him as our only option which is why I think we are going to struggle.

[pleno1]

Am I the only person who thinks Rooney is terrible? Wouldn't even have him in my starting 11 these days.

who would you play ahead of him?

Lambert or Wellbeck if replacing him up top.

Any number of players if replacing him in behind or on wing.

Pleno, it's not overnight though, he's been poor for a while imo. Last few games for England he has looked avg at best.

In 2013 Rooney played 10 games for England scoring 6 goals.

In 2012 5 games 4 goals.

10 in 15 games he has been pretty consistent over last 2 years.

Even in a struggling man united team he's score 11 in 23 this season, that's pretty decent, remember he doesn't take penaltys for club or country.

[youthnkzR]

I'd go with



                        Hart


Johnson    Cahill  ! Jagielka !     Baines

               Gerrard   Wilshire 
Sterling                             Oxlade chamberlain

                   Rooney

                    Sturridge


Sturridge, Rooney, Gerard, Cahill, hart, baines, Johnson are locks I think.

Jagielka is the main worry but who else is there? Jones / Smalling... Nahh.

[millidonk]

Pleno, playing teams like San Marino, Moldova, Bulgaria, Montenegro, ROE and Scotland I would expect him to have more tbh.

But as I said last few games for England, let's take a look. I believe he played in all the matches and was subbed on 70 mins in one.

vs Denmark - no goals no assists
vs Germany - no goals no assists
vs Chile - no goals no assists

Years when there has been a world cup:

2010 -  11 apps - 1 goal
2006 -  8 apps - 1 goal

Don't get me wrong, I would love him to set the world cup on fire but I can't see it and I worry that his name alone will keep people who can actually create and score goals like Lallana, Stirling and Chamberlain out of the team

[anthonyl]

Hmm that's interesting I always imagined he'd play Rooney behind Sturridge and Sturridge aways as the number 9.

Agree out 4231 just think Rooney will play as the central of the three.

Maybe he will play Henderson next to Gerard wilshire on the left. Sturridge playing on the left would be really bad, he is poor defensively and you need to be solid here, I don't think hodgson will trust him.

As you know I'd love Henderson to play but I just don't see it happening, he definitely deserves it too.

Without going on too much of a diversion 4 years later we will have

Hart
Butland
Jones
Shaw
Oxlade
Barkley
Wilshire
Ward prowse
Tom ince
Zaha
Walcott
Rooney
Sturridge
Sterling
Henderson

All in their prime, could be an exciting team.

Rohan Ince will be in the mix.

[Ironside]

Hmm that's interesting I always imagined he'd play Rooney behind Sturridge and Sturridge aways as the number 9.

Agree out 4231 just think Rooney will play as the central of the three.

Maybe he will play Henderson next to Gerard wilshire on the left. Sturridge playing on the left would be really bad, he is poor defensively and you need to be solid here, I don't think hodgson will trust him.

As you know I'd love Henderson to play but I just don't see it happening, he definitely deserves it too.

Without going on too much of a diversion 4 years later we will have

Hart
Butland
Jones
Shaw
Oxlade
Barkley
Wilshire
Ward prowse
Tom ince
Zaha
Walcott
Rooney
Sturridge
Sterling
Henderson

All in their prime, could be an exciting team.

Rohan Ince will be in the mix.

chambers at Southampton will be England regular rb before 2020