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dino1980
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Re: England World Cup squad/11
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Reply #90 on:
March 14, 2014, 03:49:39 PM »
Quote from: pleno1 on March 14, 2014, 09:43:49 AM
I'd go with
Hart
Johnson Cahill Jagielka Baines
Gerrard Barkley
Sterling Oxlade chamberlain
Rooney
Sturridge
I expect Henderson, wilshire, carrick and Lampars to be ahead of Barkley though.
I expect hodgson to go for Milner over one of the wingers and be more defensive.
Sturridge, Rooney, Gerard, Cahill, hart, baines, Johnson are locks I think.
One of the most sensible football posts you've ever made
Agree with the locks, think Wilshere and Jags are both locks too if fit.
Like Tighty I like the back five and it'll almost certainly be how they line-up against Italy. I'd love to see Shaw start and I'd also like to see Cole given a game at right back in one of the friendlies prior to the WC as I don't see why he can't play there. If taking four specialist full backs I'd take Johnson and the three left backs.
Don't think Lampard will go, hope Sturridge plays right up top with Rooney behind (they're clever enough to interchange). I also hope Lallana starts one side of Rooney and if he does Sterling - due to his pace - probably provides the best balance on the other side. Midfield wise I'd probably take - Gerrard, Wilshere, Lallana, Carrick, Henderson, Barkley, Sterling, and The Ox. Leaves us a little light in terms of out and out wide men, but Welbeck can play that role, ditto Sturridge and, at a push, Baines.
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Re: England World Cup squad/11
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March 14, 2014, 03:56:48 PM »
I btw think baines is very very overrated. Defensively he is a liability and I think he may be the downfall of the team. With cole if jagielka is too slow he will get back in.
The thing is with our defense we have to just understand we aren't world beaters but Cahill and jagielka can defend well we just can't let them get exposed and need to give as much protection as possible. Playing baines and Johnson together is just abit too gung ho.
I'd rather instruct the defense to play very solid and let the midfield express themselves rather than having a defense minded midfield with Milner etc. such a shame terry can't be turned around
Big advantage of Cahill and jagielka is that they are very dangerous on set pieces.
Thing with baine is thT his set pieces are so good and huge asset but gerrars probably won't let him take them anyway.
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Quote from: TightEnd on December 16, 2013, 12:59:59 AM
Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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Re: England World Cup squad/11
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Reply #92 on:
April 20, 2014, 03:29:54 PM »
Quote from: mondatoo on November 07, 2013, 02:57:45 PM
I still strongly believe nobody over the 31/32 mark should go.
My Squad would be
Goalkeepers - 3
Hart
Forster
Butland
Defenders - 7
Baines
Gibbs
Johnson
Walker
Jones
Smalling
Cahill
Midfielders - 8
Wilshire (Capt)
Lallana
Barkley
Townsend
Chamberlain
Zaha
Sterling
Rodwell
Forwards - 4
Rooney
Sturridge
Welbeck
Walcott
Carroll (if fit and on form instead of Lallana)
From the squad my first 11 is
Hart
Walker Jones Cahill Baines
Walcott Rodwell Wilshire Chamberlain
Rooney
Sturridge
Rodwell's whole inclusion would be dependent on him agreeing to go out on loan in January otherwise he's out the squad, Barkley starts in his place.
My Squad now would be
Goalkeepers - 3
Hart
Forster
Foster
Defenders - 8
Baines
Shaw
Johnson
Milner
Jones
Cahill
Jagielka
Smalling
Midfielders - 7
Gerrard (Capt)
Henderson
Wilshire
Lallana
Barkley
Chamberlain/Townsend
Sterling
Forwards - 4
Rooney
Sturridge
Welbeck
Lambert
From the squad my first 11 is
Hart
Milner Cahill Jagielka Baines
Gerrard
Barkley Henderson Sterling
Rooney
Sturridge
I think we have to play Milner RB, because all our actual RB's aren't very good and can't defend, have watched all of Liverpool's games recently and when Johnson looks weak in that team he just can't play for England, and it's a role Milner is definitely capable of filling.
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Re: England World Cup squad/11
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April 20, 2014, 03:40:20 PM »
take flanagan as he can cover rb and lb?
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Quote from: TightEnd on December 16, 2013, 12:59:59 AM
Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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Re: England World Cup squad/11
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April 20, 2014, 03:43:29 PM »
doesnt make too much sense to have jones, smalling and johnson if were gonna start milner.
id probably take carroll over lambert.
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Quote from: TightEnd on December 16, 2013, 12:59:59 AM
Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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Re: England World Cup squad/11
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April 20, 2014, 03:43:57 PM »
Stones would be my backup for Johnson here
Comfy on ball cant be playing a player in a world cup with a handful of club games ever at right back
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April 20, 2014, 03:51:43 PM »
England should never be in a position where u play a plYer out of positon, as in Milner.
Johnson as weak as he can be, defends better than milner would surely?!
Too late gor flanno youd think, but versatility will be favourable for him.
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April 20, 2014, 04:04:48 PM »
Quote from: pleno1 on April 20, 2014, 03:43:29 PM
doesnt make too much sense to have jones, smalling and johnson if were gonna start milner.
id probably take carroll over lambert.
I want 4 cbs. Milner is cover for so many positions as well.
Think Lambert shades it, dem mad pen skillz
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April 20, 2014, 04:12:18 PM »
Quote from: horseplayer on April 20, 2014, 03:43:57 PM
Stones would be my backup for Johnson here
Comfy on ball cant be playing a player in a world cup with a handful of club games ever at right back
His international experience gets him in for me. He had a big part in City changing the game vs Liverpool last week.
Also he's made 30 appereances for City this season, more than 10 starts and also Pellegrini has started him in a few of the big games which tells a lot.
It's not ideal obv, but there's absolutely no doubt for me Glen Johnson will get ripped apart, I'm 100% certain Milner is a better defender.
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April 20, 2014, 04:14:31 PM »
Quote from: Waz1892 on April 20, 2014, 03:51:43 PM
England should never be in a position where u play a plYer out of positon, as in Milner.
Johnson as weak as he can be, defends better than milner would surely?!
Too late gor flanno youd think, but versatility will be favourable for him.
I went to modify my post to Shaw/Flanagan but since it seems your lot want to buy Shaw then that's enough for me.
I think it's too early for him but definitely one for the future.
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April 20, 2014, 04:26:43 PM »
What have Jones and Smalling done this season for you to warrant a place on the 'plane?
Serious question.
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Re: England World Cup squad/11
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April 20, 2014, 04:30:02 PM »
Quote from: mondatoo on April 20, 2014, 04:14:31 PM
Quote from: Waz1892 on April 20, 2014, 03:51:43 PM
England should never be in a position where u play a plYer out of positon, as in Milner.
Johnson as weak as he can be, defends better than milner would surely?!
Too late gor flanno youd think, but versatility will be favourable for him.
I went to modify my post to Shaw/Flanagan but since it seems your lot want to buy Shaw then that's enough for me.
I think it's too early for him but definitely one for the future.
Seems insane that you would take a midfielder and try and convert him into a RB/RWB for a world cup.
I'd take Micah Richards before taking Milner as my RB.
Also think Johnson will do better for England as a RB if he just concentrates on defending rather than trying to get forward at every opportunity.
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April 20, 2014, 04:30:50 PM »
Quote from: Tal on April 20, 2014, 04:26:43 PM
What have Jones and Smalling done this season for you to warrant a place on the 'plane?
Serious question.
I think Phil Jones is a good player.
Open to suggestions to replace both though, I haven't watched enough Football this season.
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April 20, 2014, 04:33:05 PM »
Didn't expect many to agree re Milner, but GL with Johnson vs anyone who isn't absolutely woeful.
It's not a position he's alien to either.
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Re: England World Cup squad/11
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April 20, 2014, 04:38:38 PM »
Of course he could play it but he hasnt played a full match there for at least 3 seasons
Johnson has been streets ahead of Smalling and Jones this season
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