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« Reply #105 on: April 20, 2014, 04:39:29 PM »

What have Jones and Smalling done this season for you to warrant a place on the 'plane?

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I think Phil Jones is a good player.

Open to suggestions to replace both though, I haven't watched enough Football this season.

I'd say Curtis Davies has been head and shoulders above both this season. Stephen Caulker has matured in a tough Cardiff team and looks every bit the money they paid for him. Spurs would have loved him back this year.

If you want a versatile player (and someone who can deliver a ball if when Gerrard's legs fall off), Tom Huddlestone could barely have done more this season.

Jones and Smalling should have been much better players this season than they have been. Something hasn't quite gone right and I'd be astonished if either of them had excellent world cups.

Just my own view.
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« Reply #106 on: April 20, 2014, 04:42:53 PM »

I think Phil Jnes is a good player in a bad, and ageing, club defence

is versatility..fourth CB, Second right back, defensive midfielder gets him on the plane


Smalling i wouldn't pick, if i could think of another centre back to take. Caulker maybe.


right back is a problem but I would see him picking the five Liverpool players, and Rooney and working from there


Hart

Johnson Cahill Jagielka Baines

Henderson Gerrard

Sterling Rooney Lallana

Sturridge

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Forster
Foster

Luke Shaw (would take him over Ashley with an eye on 2018)
Phil Jones
Smalling/Caulker

Wilshere (I would pick Henderson over him, to keep the Liverpool axis)
Barkley
Oxlade C
Milner (will certainly go, will do the dirty work when you need to close out a game or get a group game draw)

Lambert (penalties, better than Carroll anyway. neither go if was rodriguez fit)
Welbeck


this would mean leaving Lampard, but i want an eye on 2018 in the squad players. so barkley etc go
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« Reply #107 on: April 20, 2014, 04:46:00 PM »

Yeah, we are just so weak in CB pos, pretty much no competition for starting places.
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« Reply #108 on: April 20, 2014, 05:01:37 PM »

Personally would not take Jones or Smalling

Smalling is what he is a decent player probably be a squad player for United for a few more years.

Really dont get Jones especially in defence very limited positionally, not that quick very rash and not especially brilliant on the ball

Ok he is young and could improve but not for me
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« Reply #109 on: April 20, 2014, 05:03:03 PM »

Personally would not take Jones or Smalling

Smalling is what he is a decent player probably be a squad player for United for a few more years.

Really dont get Jones especially in defence very limited positionally, not that quick very rash and not especially brilliant on the ball

Ok he is young and could improve but not for me

And instead you take ?
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« Reply #110 on: April 20, 2014, 05:11:01 PM »

I would go for Curtis Davies

Silly as it sounds plenty of reports around saying he is an excellent "dressing room influence"

Plus he has been very good this season a big goal threat deserves a chance,

The reason for mentioning the good in the dressing room bit is recently read some interviews with two separate world cup winners and both mentioned the players you take that dont/are unlikely to play are just as important for team harmony e.t.c as those who will start.

Could not have Caulker on my mind cant have someone having a good season for a side who have conceding that many goals
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« Reply #111 on: April 20, 2014, 05:17:23 PM »

Just can't have that Curtis Davies is good enough. Seen him play live in 30-40 games and he just isn't, even with a good season.

All about opinions!

depth at CB and RB is an enormous problem. might not be come 2018 with stones and any of lees, liam moore, clyne and the like going to be ready then but right now, not a lot.
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« Reply #112 on: April 20, 2014, 05:19:49 PM »

Smalling is a major weak link in United's team, the amount of times he kills our attacking play by giving the ball away cheaply, seems to have regressed so much this season. Jones is decent, would certainly take him over the likes of Curtis Davies. He has big game experience and is versatile with potential to improve
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« Reply #113 on: April 20, 2014, 05:23:20 PM »

Fine to take players with potential

But players like Davies should be rewarded for excellent seasons

I never used to rate him at all but he is in his prime for a defender now and in a recent interview has admitted he has changed his style a lot and it shows

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« Reply #114 on: April 20, 2014, 05:44:40 PM »

Balance in taking barklays/shaws/hendos etc vs cole lamps etc, for experience if not on the pitch in the dressing room?
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« Reply #115 on: April 20, 2014, 05:46:44 PM »

Balance in taking barklays/shaws/hendos etc vs cole lamps etc, for experience if not on the pitch in the dressing room?

Think it is fine to take the younger in form player if they actually have a shot at playing

4 years is a massive time in football so is 2 years players that look likely to be certs for 2 years time probably wont be
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« Reply #116 on: April 20, 2014, 07:05:08 PM »

What have Jones and Smalling done this season for you to warrant a place on the 'plane?

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I don't get what either bring to the table for club or country.  Surely just a case of Man U's quota of players for the england squad.  Surely these days are over now Man U's dominance is over as well.  I read today Wenger is looking at a £13m bid for Smalling in the summer.
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« Reply #117 on: April 20, 2014, 07:08:02 PM »

Seems the most unlikely Wenger signing ever

If he offered 13 million it would be snapped up
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« Reply #118 on: April 22, 2014, 09:02:39 PM »

Johnson, Henderson, sterling, Gerrard, sturrige all have to be in our first 11.

They haven't played in European competitions or been in any cup run so will still be fresh.

Hart

Johnson
Terry
Cahill
Baines

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Gerrard
Sterling

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« Reply #119 on: April 22, 2014, 09:08:37 PM »

Why all the Love for Hart?

Forster is by far a better keeper.

Would take Barkley in a heart beat. Think he could be a big impact player.
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