Under 9s coach - interesting decision. Thoughts?

[The Camel]

Jake plays in a local  little under 9's football team/league.

They all have a fantastic time and it is great for learning to love the beautiful game.

By far the best player in Jake's team is a boy called Tom.

Tom is very skilful plus bigger and stronger than all his teammates and most opposition players he faces too.

Last week he scored a pretty good goal, beat about 5 defenders and slotted the ball in the corner of the net.

In celebration he lifted his shirt over his head did a little dance around the corner flag.

The coach's reaction? He immediately subbed Tom and told him he would not be playing in the next match "unless he learned how to respect both the opposition and the game itself".

Cue one very unhappy 8 year old.

Over reaction by the coach or good to teach the kid a lesson early?

[TightEnd]

Its a fine line between encouraging skills and respect for the game

At that age they are copying what they see on MOTD, Sky etc every week too

Done similar myself, to a lad at U11 level who didn't play in the right spirit subbed the lad for the rest of the game.

Think not playing the next match,or threatening it, is a step too far at that age

[The Camel]

Its a fine line between encouraging skills and respect for the game

At that age they are copying what they see on MOTD, Sky etc every week too

Done similar myself, to a lad at U11 level who didn't play in the right spirit subbed the lad for the rest of the game.

Think not playing the next match,or threatening it, is a step too far at that age

I should have added, he did say before the first game they played, if and when someone scores a few high fives are all he wanted to see before they ran back to get ready for the restart.

No warning about punishment though, but Tom's celebration was definitely OTT - especially as they already winning easily.

[RED-DOG]

Over reaction. It's a physical game, let him express his pleasure physically.

Nothing wrong with the other kids learning to cope with having a little salt rubbed into the wound to sharpen the sting of defeat either.

There's too much mollycoddling of youngsters imo. Youth is designed to prepare you for adulthood. the real world isn't all warm and fuzzy.

If it were a non physical came, like poker or chess for instance, I would see it completely differently.

[RED-DOG]

Its a fine line between encouraging skills and respect for the game

At that age they are copying what they see on MOTD, Sky etc every week too

Done similar myself, to a lad at U11 level who didn't play in the right spirit subbed the lad for the rest of the game.

Think not playing the next match,or threatening it, is a step too far at that age

I should have added, he did say before the first game they played, if and when someone scores a few high fives are all he wanted to see before they ran back to get ready for the restart.

No warning about punishment though, but Tom's celebration was definitely OTT - especially as they already winning easily.

Not fair. You moved the goal posts just as I replied.

[BorntoBubble]

hmmm difficult one i don't get why people are punished for celebrating goals it does not seem to over the top if he just scored a worldie goal. but learning to respect your opposition is a great lesson.

I remember a referee sin binning a player on our team in a rugby match for going "wheyyyy" when he ran past an opposition player and left him on his arse. We were winning by lots and our number 10 was running riot. After about the third player he went "wheyyy" to the ref gave them a penalty and binned him. We were all shocked but he never did it again thats for sure

[TightEnd]

Its a fine line between encouraging skills and respect for the game

At that age they are copying what they see on MOTD, Sky etc every week too

Done similar myself, to a lad at U11 level who didn't play in the right spirit subbed the lad for the rest of the game.

Think not playing the next match,or threatening it, is a step too far at that age

I should have added, he did say before the first game they played, if and when someone scores a few high fives are all he wanted to see before they ran back to get ready for the restart.

No warning about punishment though, but Tom's celebration was definitely OTT - especially as they already winning easily.

subbing for rest of game is appropriate

Not a fan of carrying any "punishment" over beyond that match at this age though

Sub him, then let him play next game as normal

FA is moving to non competitive, no league table, small sided games up to U12 anyway, so its irrespective the score......more the lad has behaved against the coach's instructions

[The Camel]

Its a fine line between encouraging skills and respect for the game

At that age they are copying what they see on MOTD, Sky etc every week too

Done similar myself, to a lad at U11 level who didn't play in the right spirit subbed the lad for the rest of the game.

Think not playing the next match,or threatening it, is a step too far at that age

I should have added, he did say before the first game they played, if and when someone scores a few high fives are all he wanted to see before they ran back to get ready for the restart.

No warning about punishment though, but Tom's celebration was definitely OTT - especially as they already winning easily.

Not fair. You moved the goal posts just as I replied.

I'll ban you from my thread if you're not careful!

[The Camel]

Its a fine line between encouraging skills and respect for the game

At that age they are copying what they see on MOTD, Sky etc every week too

Done similar myself, to a lad at U11 level who didn't play in the right spirit subbed the lad for the rest of the game.

Think not playing the next match,or threatening it, is a step too far at that age

I should have added, he did say before the first game they played, if and when someone scores a few high fives are all he wanted to see before they ran back to get ready for the restart.

No warning about punishment though, but Tom's celebration was definitely OTT - especially as they already winning easily.

subbing for rest of game is appropriate

Not a fan of carrying any "punishment" over beyond that match at this age though

Sub him, then let him play next game as normal

FA is moving to non competitive, no league table, small sided games up to U12 anyway, so its irrespective the score......more the lad has behaved against the coach's instructions

That's a horrible decision by the FA.

Kids love league tables and finding out the scores from other games and how it affects their position.

[TightEnd]

Many coaches agree with you

FA has been v draconian about it, bans from coaching for managers who do their own league tables etc etc

Apparently its a continental model!

[pleno1]

Its a fine line between encouraging skills and respect for the game

At that age they are copying what they see on MOTD, Sky etc every week too

Done similar myself, to a lad at U11 level who didn't play in the right spirit subbed the lad for the rest of the game.

Think not playing the next match,or threatening it, is a step too far at that age

I should have added, he did say before the first game they played, if and when someone scores a few high fives are all he wanted to see before they ran back to get ready for the restart.

No warning about punishment though, but Tom's celebration was definitely OTT - especially as they already winning easily.

subbing for rest of game is appropriate

Not a fan of carrying any "punishment" over beyond that match at this age though

Sub him, then let him play next game as normal

FA is moving to non competitive, no league table, small sided games up to U12 anyway, so its irrespective the score......more the lad has behaved against the coach's instructions

That's a horrible decision by the FA.

Kids love league tables and finding out the scores from other games and how it affects their position.

agree when I was 12 I used to ring friends from every team or be on MSN to every team after my match, it was always fun to be competitive. 

I dont even think op is that bad, it seems like fun, if you were there and it was OTT then sure, but speak to him after the game and tell him what you dont like and why and then give punishment in the future. After reading that they were already warned, subbing off and explaining after the game suffices but banning for the next game is ridiculous, way too far.

We used to love celebrations, on Friday nights instead of drinking wed plan football celerbrations, they wernt offensive, they were just our way of having fun.

[The Camel]

Its a fine line between encouraging skills and respect for the game

At that age they are copying what they see on MOTD, Sky etc every week too

Done similar myself, to a lad at U11 level who didn't play in the right spirit subbed the lad for the rest of the game.

Think not playing the next match,or threatening it, is a step too far at that age

I should have added, he did say before the first game they played, if and when someone scores a few high fives are all he wanted to see before they ran back to get ready for the restart.

No warning about punishment though, but Tom's celebration was definitely OTT - especially as they already winning easily.

subbing for rest of game is appropriate

Not a fan of carrying any "punishment" over beyond that match at this age though

Sub him, then let him play next game as normal

FA is moving to non competitive, no league table, small sided games up to U12 anyway, so its irrespective the score......more the lad has behaved against the coach's instructions

That's a horrible decision by the FA.

Kids love league tables and finding out the scores from other games and how it affects their position.

agree when I was 12 I used to ring friends from every team or be on MSN to every team after my match, it was always fun to be competitive. 

I dont even think op is that bad, it seems like fun, if you were there and it was OTT then sure, but speak to him after the game and tell him what you dont like and why and then give punishment in the future. After reading that they were already warned, subbing off and explaining after the game suffices but banning for the next game is ridiculous, way too far.

We used to love celebrations, on Friday nights instead of drinking wed plan football celerbrations, they wernt offensive, they were just our way of having fun.

The only problem with kids leagues is there are far too many complete mis matches.

Nothing worse than 20-0 results.

My junior school was at least 5 times bigger than any other in the area. And I don't think we ever lost a football match.

But our PE teacher used to keep games within shouting distance by giving penalties for offside or disallowing goals for pushes which didn't happen.

Not sure how that can be altered, but nothing wrong with competitiveness in itself.

[Jamier-Host]

FA is moving to non competitive, no league table, small sided games up to U12 anyway

What a load of nonsense. Life is competitive, and makes a sport much more fun.

[Jamier-Host]

But our PE teacher used to keep games within shouting distance by giving penalties for offside or disallowing goals for pushes which didn't happen.

Ha. Has felt like that in senior sports for me before - take a decent lead and suddenly whistle keeps going against you.  It's like bloody Mario Kart when every bugger behind you gets red shells and lightning.

[WotRTheChances]

Substituting the player seems fair 'punishment'. Have a word with him after the game and before the next game, just to enforce that they don't want to promote that kind of behaviour. Making an 8 year old sit out the whole next game for over-celebrating seems pretty absurd. Sure if they hit someone or swear at the ref or something, being sub for the next game or missing it seems fine, but not for this.