Simple spot is simple?

[youthnkzR]

Hot 33, 13 left, we are 3 of 13. $8k ftw. 13th gets 300. Few guys have between 1-4bbs.

PokerStars Hand #106958157051: Tournament #814582657, $30+$3 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXXIII (10000/20000) - 2013/11/13 18:31:28 WET [2013/11/13 13:31:28 ET]
Table '814582657 84' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Alf1331 (490264 in chips)
Seat 2: Evadar (418288 in chips)
Seat 4: 8Bodo8 (215940 in chips)
Seat 5: RichieA7s (312119 in chips)
Seat 6: GaggleoKings (389141 in chips)
Seat 7: NeverHoldz (162972 in chips)
Seat 9: markovitsus (230297 in chips)
Alf1331: posts the ante 2500
Evadar: posts the ante 2500
8Bodo8: posts the ante 2500
RichieA7s: posts the ante 2500
GaggleoKings: posts the ante 2500
NeverHoldz: posts the ante 2500
markovitsus: posts the ante 2500
NeverHoldz: posts small blind 10000
markovitsus: posts big blind 20000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to GaggleoKings [X X]
Alf1331: folds
Evadar: folds
8Bodo8: folds
RichieA7s: raises 289619 to 309619 and is all-in
GaggleoKings (389141 in chips):

What are we putting our disks in with readless?

[WotRTheChances]

A7s+ A9o+, KQ, 55+ there or there abouts for me.

[youthnkzR]

Is ICM a factor when choosing this range? If not when does it start to become one?

[millidonk]

I would have thought it was and I have a much tighter range than above.

AQ+ 99+ maybe.

[WotRTheChances]

Is ICM a factor when choosing this range? If not when does it start to become one?

A bit yeah, but wouldnt say it's massive and it's a turbo, so I prefer to take the edges.

Maybe I'd go tighter in-game to like A8s+ ATo+ KQ 66+ or something, but cant see myself folding any of these.

[stato_1]

AJs, AQo, 66

[stato_1]

AJs, AQo, 66

maybe 77+ and maybe stretch to ATs AJo but think ppl are pretty well weighted towards small pairs and hands they dont wanna raise call.

[The Squid]

ICM massively relevant. Not just what's cEV

[youthnkzR]

Is ICM a factor when choosing this range? If not when does it start to become one?

A bit yeah, but wouldnt say it's massive and it's a turbo, so I prefer to take the edges.

Maybe I'd go tighter in-game to like A8s+ ATo+ KQ 66+ or something, but cant see myself folding any of these.

Was really surprised to see this, I actually had 88 in game and it felt semi-close, however i pressed the all in button within a second or two.

[MC]

88 is a fistpump

Kinda like WotRs range, vs a reg. Readless might go tighter, but hard to fold too much tighter

Edit: By fistpump I don't really mean that, I just mean never folding, sorry if that sounded a bit brash.

I think 66+, AT+, A9s I'm not folding.

And KQs, 55, A8s, A9 are all at least tempting

[lucky_scrote]

ICM massively relevant. Not just what's cEV

This.

Saying ICM isn't as much of a factor here because it's a turbo is a categorical error imo (sorry to sound harsh). It's really really dependent on the chip counts though. That's how ICM works. If you are 3/13 with 4 really small stacks but everyone else is fairly close then your range can be less tight because the chip counts are all close where the big pay jumps begin. If it were 3 people with 70% of chips in play in the top 3 then it's pretty brutal how tight you need to call here; remember that you will have your fair share of wide jams that people will have to call super tight with and you'll make a ton of chips because of it.