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« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2013, 03:27:28 PM »

Well I'm pretty happy to see some discussion about the flop play. I went for the check behind option.

PokerStars Hand #107345510807: Tournament #818658016, $50+$5 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVIII (2000/4000) - 2013/11/21 7:29:50 WET [2013/11/21 2:29:50 ET]
Table '818658016 31' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: jeckleson (48224 in chips)
Seat 2: intervntion (215739 in chips)
Seat 3: NLitez2 (322172 in chips)
Seat 5: duck103 (49442 in chips)
Seat 6: Ace22Two (34565 in chips)
Seat 7: giisela (110896 in chips)
Seat 8: Demonic16 (243604 in chips)
jeckleson: posts the ante 400
intervntion: posts the ante 400
NLitez2: posts the ante 400
duck103: posts the ante 400
Ace22Two: posts the ante 400
giisela: posts the ante 400
Demonic16: posts the ante 400
jeckleson: posts small blind 2000
intervntion: posts big blind 4000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Demonic16 [ ]
NLitez2: raises 4000 to 8000
duck103: folds
Ace22Two: folds
giisela: folds
Demonic16: calls 8000
jeckleson: folds
intervntion: calls 4000
*** FLOP *** [ three diamonds]
intervntion: checks
NLitez2: checks
Demonic16: checks
*** TURN *** [ three diamonds] []
intervntion: bets 12889
NLitez2: folds
Demonic16: Huh?
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« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2013, 04:28:16 PM »

regret not betting the flop and fold
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« Reply #17 on: November 22, 2013, 04:50:40 PM »

FML. I'm such a fish. I so nearly put in last post that if we check back we gotta call two fro intervention and it's well awkward.

I woulda looked like such a boss.

Fold now.
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« Reply #18 on: November 22, 2013, 04:51:52 PM »


Just because they both have more K in their perceived ranges than we do.

What we getting value from if we bet?

I'd play this exactly as OP has done and be more than happy with folding now on this turn.

Happy to bet a turn deuce, at least we can get value from bluff catchers.
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« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2013, 06:08:35 PM »

when guy checks he has zero kx in his perceived range and the big blind has way more 74s kind of hands than we do, so we def have more kx in our perceived range than both never mind either.
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« Reply #20 on: November 22, 2013, 06:32:09 PM »

Yeah meant to say perceived pf ranges.

I just don't want to turn a hand that has pretty decent equity vs their readjusted post flop ranges into a bluff.

I'd feel filthy bet folding here. If your happy to call a c/r and call down most runouts then fair enough. I just don't have the heart of somebody as capable as the Crab.
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« Reply #21 on: November 22, 2013, 06:42:09 PM »

well if bb check raises and hes described as super aggro id be pretty happy as hes very very very unlikely to check raise Kx for value and will have lots of bluffs, also think its incredibly unlikely that villain 1 check raises this board as the pfr.

id bet for

1- value vs draws or worse pairs with the potential chance of tripling vs jj-qq occasionally and occasionally going for value vs 8x depending on run outs
2- protection on the flop as we are 3 way with usually the best hand but always vs some form of overcard or underpairs or back door flush draws that could go ahead and improve equity ott.

Id also bet this flop with a bunch of hands with the intention of barrelling off as a bluff vs weak perceived ranges, so want to extend value range wider than just Kx.
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« Reply #22 on: November 25, 2013, 09:14:59 PM »

Think Flat Pre is best here
Bet flop I think - Keep it simple
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« Reply #23 on: November 25, 2013, 09:27:55 PM »

Kinda forgot about this hand. I have the rest saved on my laptop, I'll try and post it next time I'm on, at least before UKIPT. The river is the most debatable part of the hand, although I thought all streets had some points worth discussion.

I called the turn as I thought I could be winning, could bluff some rivers if the right cards came and I didn't expect my opponent to go too wild on the end.
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« Reply #24 on: November 25, 2013, 09:49:18 PM »

I didn't expect my opponent to go too wild on the end.

If I don't have showdown value and I'm in interventions seat, I am betting the river all day long.
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« Reply #25 on: November 26, 2013, 01:38:58 PM »

we easily have the most Kx in our percieved and actual range here than both the opener and the bb.
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« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2013, 01:40:07 PM »

PokerStars Hand #107345510807: Tournament #818658016, $50+$5 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVIII (2000/4000) - 2013/11/21 7:29:50 WET [2013/11/21 2:29:50 ET]
Table '818658016 31' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: jeckleson (48224 in chips)
Seat 2: intervntion (215739 in chips)
Seat 3: NLitez2 (322172 in chips)
Seat 5: duck103 (49442 in chips)
Seat 6: Ace22Two (34565 in chips)
Seat 7: giisela (110896 in chips)
Seat 8: Demonic16 (243604 in chips)
jeckleson: posts the ante 400
intervntion: posts the ante 400
NLitez2: posts the ante 400
duck103: posts the ante 400
Ace22Two: posts the ante 400
giisela: posts the ante 400
Demonic16: posts the ante 400
jeckleson: posts small blind 2000
intervntion: posts big blind 4000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Demonic16 [ ]
NLitez2: raises 4000 to 8000
duck103: folds
Ace22Two: folds
giisela: folds
Demonic16: calls 8000
jeckleson: folds
intervntion: calls 4000
*** FLOP *** [ three diamonds]
intervntion: checks
NLitez2: checks
Demonic16: checks
*** TURN *** [ three diamonds] []
intervntion: bets 12889
NLitez2: folds
Demonic16: calls 12889
*** RIVER *** [ three diamonds ] []
intervntion: bets 38450
Demonic16: raises 86320 to 124770


Don't really like my postflop line apart from the river. Probs pretty butchered really. Thoughts otr?
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« Reply #27 on: November 26, 2013, 02:07:07 PM »

repping too thin for me 99/JT for value and you would bet JTs on the flop when checked to, esp with JTdd
if he doesn't know you well, you might get away with it, i think a reg he knows would get called fairly wide here
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« Reply #28 on: November 26, 2013, 02:54:12 PM »

would also fold 99 ott fwiw. repping just the jt and he looks like he likes his hand with sizing, v liekly qqq?
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« Reply #29 on: November 26, 2013, 03:37:30 PM »

highly doubt he would just call QQ here with a seemingly capped button range of hero's. a heap of 2 pair hands tho and 88/33, he is ofc barrelling a big % of the time with no pair
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