Getting deep in big 20 .frrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[jjandellis]

50 left, I've been top 10 stack all tourney. Since moving to this table I've nitted up. Only been at table 17 hands...both playin 18/18 (although Bandit bank has 3b shoved on 1mentalist once previous)

PokerStars Hand #107937682864: Tournament #824286224, €18+€2 EUR Hold'em No Limit - Level XXIII (2500/5000) - 2013/12/03 1:13:16 CET [2013/12/02 19:13:16 ET]
Table '824286224 45' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Merceko9 (44990 in chips)
Seat 2: yesnoperhaps (84058 in chips)
Seat 3: el coyote29 (95020 in chips)
Seat 4: unKwnCrusher (139563 in chips)
Seat 5: baccara34 (73353 in chips)
Seat 6: momotun49 (189726 in chips)
Seat 7: OneMentalist (107975 in chips)
Seat 8: BANDIT BANK (79105 in chips)
Seat 9: aneantir (196170 in chips)
Merceko9: posts the ante 625
yesnoperhaps: posts the ante 625
el coyote29: posts the ante 625
unKwnCrusher: posts the ante 625
baccara34: posts the ante 625
momotun49: posts the ante 625
OneMentalist: posts the ante 625
BANDIT BANK: posts the ante 625
aneantir: posts the ante 625
yesnoperhaps: posts small blind 2500
el coyote29: posts big blind 5000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to aneantir [ ]
unKwnCrusher: folds
baccara34: folds
momotun49: folds
OneMentalist: raises 5750 to 10750
BANDIT BANK: raises 13180 to 23930
aneantir: ?

Banditbank screaming strength.

Flat to induce shove from 1mentalist?
Shove?
Runaway?

[BorntoBubble]

I'm shoving

[millidonk]

Unless I have seen BANDIT 3b fold from a 15bb stack before then I am happy to fold here. We have 40bbs late on in a comp, holding 1010 when x2 people have shown strength, both of which have awkward stacks for us to get it in against.

The fact he shoved on him last time and now is inducing also makes me want to fold even more. 

If he has more chips I like a min 4bet, looks so sexy and could fold out JJ/AK

Reasons for shoving? I'm assuming he jams his marginals so I would expect to be flipping at best and crushed most of the time when called.

[Flash92]

Yeah looks pretty strong, and we have next to no FE. I guess we should fold... in game I jam tho :/

[millidonk]

Yeah, I think  if you put pen to paper of why you shoved it won't add up.

Get him to fold better hands = No
Get him to call dominated with 22-99 or A2-A10 = Unlikely
Flip vs AJ+ = Likely
Crushed by JJ+ = Likely

I can't remember the exact figure but it's like 30% of the time someone is dealt a monster in full ring.

[action man]

its a fold